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onenote

(46,204 posts)
38. Wow. Just wow.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 01:22 PM
Dec 2025

I'm not sure why you keep misstating not only the facts but also my posts. Let's review.

My first post simply stated in its entirety that "No dissents to the grant of certiorari were noted." That is an undeniably true statement.

You responded by claiming that "SCOTUS already granted cert months ago." That is an undeniably untrue statement since no petition for cert was even filed until late September.

I explained why you were mistaken in my next post, but went on to clarify that the three liberal justices not only had dissented from the grant of a partial stay, but also had "made it clear that they believed the executive order was unconstitutional" and, for good measure, I added that I think they still adhere to that view.

Notwithstanding my having, I thought, clarified where I believe the three liberal stand notwithstanding the absence of any dissents to the grant of cert, you came back with a post that essentially reiterated what I had said, but somehow construed what I said as saying the opposite.

So I tried again, posting that "I have no doubt that the three justices are of the view that the executive order is unconstitutional" and that I think they are correct. I also indicated that I don't know why they didn't note a dissent to the grant of cert, but that its not uncommon for justices to support cert even when they believe the lower court ruling is correct.

I would have thought that would end it, but instead, you have invented out of whole cloth the semi-libelous claim that I've suggested that the three justices have "flipped" on whether birthright citizenship is unconstitutional. How you came to that conclusion is beyond me. But then again you still haven't conceded that cert wasn't actually granted with respect to these cases until this week, not months ago as you have claimed

Facts matter, my friend.

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SCOTUS Sycophant Six plan to tamper with birthright citizenship, otherwise dobleremolque Dec 2025 #1
Pretty sure we all know the answer Endlessmike56 Dec 2025 #2
You're exactly right. PSPS Dec 2025 #7
13th, 14th and 15th are invalid? Retrograde Dec 2025 #13
He'll cite another 17th century Brit jurist wolfie001 Dec 2025 #25
'Executive Orders as Lawmaking' needs to end C_U_L8R Dec 2025 #3
This court, this regime 31st Street Bridge Dec 2025 #4
They are making their move to completely take over our laws bluestarone Dec 2025 #5
Precedence... Republicans say that Hitler did some good things. Norrrm Dec 2025 #6
I have to believe they will rule against Trump iemanja Dec 2025 #8
Impeaching them would just have the Republicans blocking it (nt) muriel_volestrangler Dec 2025 #9
I didn't mean now iemanja Dec 2025 #14
Impeachment needs two thirds in the Senate muriel_volestrangler Dec 2025 #17
You're probably right. iemanja Dec 2025 #21
Such a ruling would instantly make the court powerless and irrelevant Fiendish Thingy Dec 2025 #11
Has a transition team been assigned for when he, well, you know, croaks. twodogsbarking Dec 2025 #10
Roughly like this? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2025 #12
No dissents to the grant of certiorari were noted. onenote Dec 2025 #15
SCOTUS already granted certiorari months ago for the injunction issue (with vociferous dissents from the 3 liberals). SunSeeker Dec 2025 #29
You are mistaken. onenote Dec 2025 #32
It is you who is mistaken. There is absolutely no basis to suggest that Sotomayor, Jackson and Kagan have flipped. SunSeeker Dec 2025 #33
I'm absolutely, positively not wrong. onenote Dec 2025 #35
Sotomayor, Jackson and Kagan have not flipped. You are dead wrong in suggesting they did. nt SunSeeker Dec 2025 #36
Wow. Just wow. onenote Dec 2025 #38
You started this be saying no dissents were noted. What was your point other than to suggest they flipped? SunSeeker Dec 2025 #39
My point was to make clear no one had noted a dissent. Nothing more or less. onenote Dec 2025 #40
So you just made a pointless post. Got it. nt SunSeeker Dec 2025 #41
And you stand by your lie about when cert was granted. Got it. nt onenote Dec 2025 #43
I didn't lie about when cert was granted. I'm not the one telling lies here. nt SunSeeker Dec 2025 #44
Yeah you did. onenote Dec 2025 #45
No I didn't. As I said, the prior ruling, with 3 dissents, involved the exact same Executive Order. SunSeeker Dec 2025 #46
You said certiorari had been granted. It hadn't and you have to know that by now. Not even the same case. onenote Dec 2025 #47
The cases are all about the same birthright citizenship EO. It's all a bullshit game by the SCOTUS conservatives. SunSeeker Dec 2025 #48
john brown's body struggle4progress Dec 2025 #16
Battle Cry of Freedom struggle4progress Dec 2025 #18
Marching Through Georgia struggle4progress Dec 2025 #19
Nazi Punks Fuck Off struggle4progress Dec 2025 #20
This is the litmus test case I have been fearing. TomSlick Dec 2025 #22
Originalists, my ass! WTF is there to decide? OMGWTF Dec 2025 #23
While they are at it just give him immunity..............oh yeah the 6 maga POS already did that........... turbinetree Dec 2025 #24
Absolutely disgusting. There is no reason to take up Trump's patently ridiculous argument. SunSeeker Dec 2025 #26
They took this case in order to overturn the law. johnnyfins Dec 2025 #27
It just takes four to agree to take a case Dangling0826 Dec 2025 #28
Asking seriously: which is easier... Shipwack Dec 2025 #30
Expansion is by simple Congressional legislation. Blasphemer Dec 2025 #34
Practical Aspect Considerations DallasNE Dec 2025 #31
Imo, fwiw, which is nothing... lonely bird Dec 2025 #37
These people are partisan political operatives... RetiredParatrooper Dec 2025 #42
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