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AZJonnie

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2. "Not that long ago" e.g. in 2001 Hugo Chavez changed a bunch of rules about foreign involvement in the industry
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 06:17 AM
Dec 2025

You can research what the changes were but most importantly the national VZ oil company (that industry was nationalized there in 1975) called PDVSA had to be allowed to control shit (>50% ownership) and make good profits, and their autonomy was reined in by the Chavez regime.

Prior, in the late 80s/90's, much less left-wing (than Chavez) leaders of VZ had offered the oil to international drillers at a steeply reduced price (and an unregulated, globalist-led PDVSA was a big part of cutting those deals).

But eventually anger over these shitty extraction deals in the 1990's (shitty for the common people of the country) was a big part of what swept Chavez into power. Then he took control of PDVSA and told the globalists they would have to renegotiate deals that were better for the PEOPLE.

Note that a lot of these companies got billions back through arbitration in the years that followed. Not as much as they were CLAIMING they lost as result, but they were awarded solid dough, and Venezuela paid it.

These companies also had the option to remain in partnership with PDVSA, they just weren't going to make as MUCH money or have as MUCH control as they'd been contracted for. Most of them cut and run. They also WROTE OFF a shit-ton of their "losses".

In the end, it's probably cost Venezuela a shit-ton of money. Way more than they've made as a result of raising their cut, by losing all these investors. BUT, they still have the oil, so there's that.

WTF is he even talking about? And when did he learn the word "armada"? niyad Dec 2025 #1
"Not that long ago" e.g. in 2001 Hugo Chavez changed a bunch of rules about foreign involvement in the industry AZJonnie Dec 2025 #2
Thank you. I was wondering how they had "our oil". JohnnyRingo Dec 2025 #19
Our oil keeps slipping out from underneath our country. Self-deporting. travelingthrulife Dec 2025 #23
This also follows the pattern of moniss Dec 2025 #35
Wasn't that the real reason that Shrub said that no_hypocrisy Dec 2025 #3
That's it exactly, and why we are friends with the brutal tyranny in Saudi Arabia Walleye Dec 2025 #9
Yup. And Trump was barking loudly at the time that we should steal their oil to pay for travelingthrulife Dec 2025 #24
NO BLOOD FOR OIL Martin Eden Dec 2025 #39
How the hell did your country truthisfreedom Dec 2025 #4
Damn Venezuela moved their entire country on top of US oil. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #6
The oil self-deports. Trying to slide away from the greed bags in the oil industry. travelingthrulife Dec 2025 #25
ICE will kidnap the oil and throw it into the Trump Crime Syndicate pockets. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #29
All the diamonds in Antwerp Belgium are MINE. I want them back. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #5
Don't give him ideas! COL Mustard Dec 2025 #7
Col honey, try to keep up. Trump and Musk visited Ft Knox first thing he was in office. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #10
But TSF and Musk walked away from Ft Knox disappointed. LastDemocratInSC Dec 2025 #13
Our oil? Who is he, including in that because it doesn't belong to me Walleye Dec 2025 #8
So where's the contractual evidence of all these Venezuelan "energy rights"? Paladin Dec 2025 #11
The oil companies were kicked out when the oil was nationalized. They were offered a deal travelingthrulife Dec 2025 #26
Let's see how trump's popularity (what's left of it) holds up... Paladin Dec 2025 #31
They are with the documents showing Trump owns Canada and Greenland too. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #30
He'd launch a fucking NUKE if it kept people off the Epstein files for a day or so Bengus81 Dec 2025 #12
The psychopath wants to sit in front of screen and tell himself...............looky I am getting people killed......... turbinetree Dec 2025 #14
Using TSF.ucker's logic........ KS Toronado Dec 2025 #15
Using this analogy, the chronology would have to be like this: FakeNoose Dec 2025 #20
Yea, that sums it up better! KS Toronado Dec 2025 #22
The oil companies practically own the Republican Party Mr. Sparkle Dec 2025 #16
Oil companies also control the content on Faux News. Dr. T Dec 2025 #18
Yeah, and what was the Sudetenland doing sitting on top of German land in 1938? hadEnuf Dec 2025 #17
This isn't quite the same thing ... FakeNoose Dec 2025 #21
Not the same thing, but meant broadly to show the lies of claiming something as "ours" in order to go in hadEnuf Dec 2025 #36
You'd think a real estate mogul would understand the concept of "property rights"? Turbineguy Dec 2025 #27
He doesn't understand anything at all Keepthesoulalive Dec 2025 #28
My car used up all the fuel I put in it. milestogo Dec 2025 #32
The logic Cirsium Dec 2025 #33
"US companies built some infrastructure so therefore we own the oil?" BumRushDaShow Dec 2025 #34
The U.S built the original canal and locks PJMcK Dec 2025 #41
And then came the drought! BumRushDaShow Dec 2025 #42
Like a little kid who sees something he likes and screams "That's mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2025 #37
We invested our tax dollars into this country NOT GRIFTERS. We WANT our money back! chowder66 Dec 2025 #38
Iran was a democracy when it nationalized its oil in 1953 Martin Eden Dec 2025 #40
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