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Wiz Imp

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41. "A state court cannot try or convict a person who has been pardoned by the federal government."

Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:34 PM

Jan 8

Not true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Jeopardy_Clause

The double jeopardy clause does not generally protect a person from being prosecuted by both a state government and the United States federal government for the same act, nor does it protect a person from being prosecuted by multiple states for the same act. Because American law considers each of the state governments to be distinct from the federal government of the United States as a whole, with its own laws, court systems, and sovereignty, these parallel prosecutions are considered to be different "offenses" under the double jeopardy clause, and the decisions of one government on what to prosecute or not prosecute are not considered to be binding upon the other. This is known as the "dual sovereignty" or "separate sovereigns" doctrine.

Moot point in this case as the Feds will never charge the guy.

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Minn. Officials Say They're Being Blocked From Investigating Fatal ICE Shooting [View all] ificandream Jan 8 OP

Could this require a lawsuit in federal court to get the information released? SSJVegeta Jan 8 #1

Pretty sure everything would accidentally be lost ashredux Jan 8 #9

Yep, including all if the video that ICE took progressoid Jan 8 #33

No offense, but posts like this are silly Wiz Imp Jan 8 #36

Yeah, progressoid Jan 8 #48

For the George Floyd killing, it wasn't the officer body cams that had the pertinent video evidence, it was the videos iluvtennis Jan 8 #45

Same with this. I find this whole "being blocked" thing an excuse SSJVegeta Jan 9 #52

Vid from shooter Iwasthere Jan 9 #56

It may. If that happened, the State of Minnesota would win. Wiz Imp Jan 8 #35

The fix is in Blues Heron Jan 8 #2

I came here to post this exact same thing JoseBalow Jan 8 #30

Yep, Mr. PooPooHead has blabbed to block our thoughts from Epstein. GreenWave Jan 8 #47

Hey Minnesotans, how is this playing out in this election year? Trump is clearly after Minnesota Raven123 Jan 8 #3

WTF! sheshe2 Jan 8 #4

so start wholesale arrests of ICE agents moonshinegnomie Jan 8 #5

There isn't anyone with the power to do that FBaggins Jan 9 #55

That is bullshit, a complete cop out. Bluetus Jan 8 #6

An arrest warrant in what name? Has the killer's name been released? What about his accomplices? nt in2herbs Jan 8 #10

THere are clear photos. He could be identified very easily. Bluetus Jan 8 #13

He is probably out of Minnesota by now... returnee Jan 8 #37

With a warrant to stand trial for manslaughter Bluetus Jan 8 #46

Agreed and disappointed in Walz. returnee Jan 9 #49

THIS orangecrush Jan 8 #32

Trump's fragile little ego underpants Jan 8 #7

Can MN file a writ of habeas corpus to gain access to the killer? Which court: state of federal? nt in2herbs Jan 8 #8

Federal in this case sboatcar Jan 8 #16

"habeas corpus" is a way to get someone released from custody if they haven't been charged muriel_volestrangler Jan 8 #23

I thought i heard that the ACLU was getting involved? If so maybe the Minnesota investigators bluestarone Jan 8 #11

I fully expect that the Trump regime will protect the shooter and not allow Gaugamela Jan 8 #12

Start indictments up the chain of command. C_U_L8R Jan 8 #14

Arrest the guy in charge that day, Bovino. sop Jan 9 #53

so, the State of MN will not be able to file any charges. It is in Federal (Trumps) hands now. riversedge Jan 8 #15

FALSE Wiz Imp Jan 8 #38

right now on msNOW:: Gov Walz saying Trump Admin has Denied MN State a role in shooting Investigation riversedge Jan 8 #17

The state better hurry. The feds want to hurry and try, convict and pardon him LiberalArkie Jan 8 #18

No way does the Federal Government charge the guy. Wiz Imp Jan 8 #39

I don't think they will either.. And I don't think that the state can charge a federal officer in pursuit of his duty. LiberalArkie Jan 8 #42

He can and I believe will be charged by the state. Wiz Imp Jan 8 #43

"A state court cannot try or convict a person who has been pardoned by the federal government." Wiz Imp Jan 8 #41

Don't do that! Bayard Jan 8 #19

Minnesota Attorney General, Keith Ellison just torched the FBI and ICE for not cooperating in the investigation LetMyPeopleVote Jan 8 #20

Obstruction of Justice? Kid Berwyn Jan 8 #21

No surprise there... 2naSalit Jan 8 #22

Then, you go surround those assholes and do not let them leave their position without cooperation. OldBaldy1701E Jan 8 #24

Time to kill off qualified immunity for law enforcement Warpy Jan 8 #25

They don't want State Charges popsdenver Jan 8 #26

The only recourse at this point appears to be a civil wrongful death suit by her family. SunSeeker Jan 8 #27

Stop playing, Miguelito Loveless Jan 8 #28

We are in a dictatorship orangecrush Jan 8 #29

A lot of the Jan. 6 rioters were identified by photos. Katinfl Jan 8 #31

Thought this issue was settled long ago. North Coast Lawyer Jan 8 #34

Can someone say "coverup"? sakabatou Jan 8 #40

I knew they'd do this. SergeStorms Jan 8 #44

I previously never thought his wishes included a civil war, but it's getting harder to reject that now. ificandream Jan 9 #50

Now that he has total immunity from the law.... SergeStorms Jan 9 #54

This is just an excuse SSJVegeta Jan 9 #51

Meanwhile FOX "News" claims MN police "drops out" of investigation. Kid Berwyn Jan 9 #57

"Blue State" vs Federal Overreach: Minnesota officials blocked from investigating ICE shooting. AcanthaV Jan 9 #58