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In reply to the discussion: Supreme Court rules against Colorado ban on 'conversion therapy' for LGBTQ+ kids [View all]Shrek
(4,425 posts)12. They actually cover that in the opinion
Colorados law does not implicate any recognized exception to the Courts usual First Amendment rules. It does not require disclosure of factual, noncontroversial information in . . . commercial speech, id., at 768, and as applied to Ms. Chiles, it does not regulate conduct in a way that only incidentally burden[s] speech, id., at 769. All she does is speak, and speech is all Colorado seeks to regulate. Colorados argument that the law regulates speech only incidentally fails because the Courts speech-incident-to-conduct doctrine asks whether the law restricts speech only because it is integrally related to unlawful conduct, or whether the law restricts expressive conduct only for reasons unrelated to its content. Colorados law does neither: Ms. Chiless speech does not bear a close causal connection to any separately unlawful conduct, and the States law trains directly on the content of her speech, permitting some viewpoints but not others.
(c) Colorado cannot establish that applying its law to Ms. Chiles falls within a long tradition of permissible content regulation.
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Supreme Court rules against Colorado ban on 'conversion therapy' for LGBTQ+ kids [View all]
BumRushDaShow
14 hrs ago
OP
I don't know that there's a live case coming through the courts that would challenge Obergefell
Prairie Gates
12 hrs ago
#15
I could accept this, though not like it, if this principle were being applied anything like equally
dsc
14 hrs ago
#3
This is an excerpt from the Kagan & Sotomayor concurring opinion. Justice Kagan authored it & Justice Sotomayor joined.
24601
13 hrs ago
#6
Yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater is "only speech" as well, but it is regulated.
SunSeeker
11 hrs ago
#16
WTF? It is not a Free Speech question. It is a medical, sociological, and ethical question.
Martin68
12 hrs ago
#10
If that is what the decision is based on, then it does seem reasonable to me. As long as advice is freely requested and
Martin68
11 hrs ago
#22
Many of the people undergoing conversion therapy are minors forced by their bigoted Christian parents.
Lonestarblue
9 hrs ago
#26
I agree entirely. My point is if the subject request advice, that is legit. Does the court finding allow parents to
Martin68
3 hrs ago
#31
Abuse because of a child's gender identity or sexual orientation certainly isn't a domain exclusive to Christianity.
24601
1 hr ago
#32
Deadline Legal Blog-Supreme Court sides with Christian counselor over Colorado on 'conversion therapy' for minors
LetMyPeopleVote
9 hrs ago
#27
Deadline Legal Blog-Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson steps out alone, again - this time on 'conversion therapy'
LetMyPeopleVote
9 hrs ago
#28