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muriel_volestrangler

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7. The Pentagon Threatened Pope Leo XIV's Ambassador With the Avignon Papacy
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 08:00 AM
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[UPDATE at 4:33 PM EDT: Letters from Leo can now independently confirm The Free Press report that the meeting took place — and that some Vatican officials were so alarmed by the Pentagon’s tactics that they shelved plans for Pope Leo XIV to visit the United States later this year.

Other officials in the Vatican saw the Pentagon’s reference to an Avignon papacy as a threat to use military force against the Holy See.]

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America, Colby and his colleagues told the cardinal, has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.

As tempers rose, one U.S. official reached for a fourteenth-century weapon and invoked the Avignon Papacy, the period when the French Crown used military force to bend the bishop of Rome to its will.
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What enraged them most was Leo’s declaration that “a diplomacy that promotes dialogue and seeks consensus among all parties is being replaced by a diplomacy based on force.”

The Pentagon read that sentence as a frontal challenge to the so-called “Donroe Doctrine” — Trump’s update of Monroe, asserting unchallenged American dominion over the Western Hemisphere.

https://www.thelettersfromleo.com/p/the-pentagon-threatened-pope-leo

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The US military threatening to kill or caputre you, is not a welcoming sign. Irish_Dem Thursday #1
Trump's veiled threat is all the more reason Pope Leo should visit the U.S. sop Thursday #2
trump is impressed by crowd size rampartd Thursday #3
That was amazing. NT Tom Dyer Thursday #6
Unless he doesn't feel safe here? displacedvermoter Thursday #9
would trump put a tomohawk through the roof of the Sistine chapel to get leo? rampartd Thursday #11
There are very crazy Latin Massers who displacedvermoter Thursday #13
Silly people, we all know that Chump is the real Anti-Christ FakeNoose Thursday #18
in the heat of actual armed conflict rampartd Thursday #22
Would the Pope Mobile fit in the Oval Office? Bayard Thursday #28
Yes, let's give the icestapo easy, large hunting grounds. We are not niyad Thursday #15
So Leo should capitulate, bow to krasnov? Because that is exactly what niyad Thursday #14
Strongly disagree. ananda Thursday #27
Come to the US and snub MFer. Don't go to DC, NYC, Miami. maxsolomon Thursday #29
Wait... Why are you dissing NYC? Plenty of Hispanics, Latinos, and Mexicans live here. electric_blue68 Thursday #33
Because Trump lives there. Or did. Melania lives there. maxsolomon Yesterday #36
Uhh...so? NYC is a more Democratic blue city.... electric_blue68 22 hrs ago #37
tRump and company using the Pope distration with outrage as goal FarPoint Thursday #4
PLEO OhioBack2Blue Thursday #5
Any statement the Pope makes will be of a religious and non-political nature FakeNoose Thursday #19
The Pentagon Threatened Pope Leo XIV's Ambassador With the Avignon Papacy muriel_volestrangler Thursday #7
"reached for a 14th century weapon. ." my heart almost stopped. Surely niyad Thursday #16
"The Pentagon requesting a meeting with a Vatican official is "unprecedented," according to the report." Prairie Gates Thursday #8
Remember that DOD is now headed by a faux Christian zealot BumRushDaShow Thursday #10
the pope will not meet trump because rampartd Thursday #12
It will be interesting to see if there is a split in the church JBTaurus83 Thursday #17
It's the Opus Dei faction that has caused most of the trouble FakeNoose Thursday #20
I agree. JBTaurus83 Thursday #23
I believe Francis already started efforts against Opus Dei displacedvermoter Thursday #24
Maybe you saw this posted on DU the other day? FakeNoose Thursday #25
National Catholic Reporter 6/25 displacedvermoter Thursday #26
It would be in the best interest of the Church JBTaurus83 Thursday #31
There always has been a split in the Catholic Church BumRushDaShow Thursday #21
Ah! Well... soon, ta ta, Cardinal Dolan! electric_blue68 Thursday #34
Any assurances that Trump makes would be meaningless bmichaelh Thursday #30
I hope the King of England cancels his visit also ! kimbutgar Thursday #32
I am still reeling over that report. valleyrogue Thursday #35
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