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DallasNE

(7,710 posts)
18. The Case Ended As It Started
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jul 2013

There was no eyewitness to the last few seconds of the fatal attack so there is no hard evidence of those last seconds except for the one phone call with a loud, fearful scream that ends abruptly when the shot rings out. That being the case, it boils down to the hard evidence and common sense. From the beginning what Zimmerman has said happened has not been supported by the hard evidence. Now O'Mara used expert witnesses that testified that what Zimmerman said could have happened but that is a far cry from saying that is how it must have happened.

Even the defenses last animation did not fit the evidence as it shows Martin throwing a left hook that connected with Zimmerman, knocking him to the ground. That type of punch would have landed somewhere on the right side of Zimmerman's head (anywhere from jaw to temple) and not square on the nose. The injury to Zimmerman's nose was delivered by a left hand but it had to be square on, meaning a hard left jab, which is what you would expect from a defensive blow intended to keep the other person at bay.

The defense had no answer for how Martin could have seen Zimmerman's gun nor how he could have retrieved it given Zimmerman's story and the location of the weapon. It is like the prosecution said, Martin would have needed 3 or 4 hands to do everything Zimmerman claimed. There is little question but what Zimmerman is guilty. It is only a matter of whether his hate filled comments are enough to be beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman had a depraved mind. Frankly, I thought the "they always get away" comment made this premeditated as Martin certainly did not "get away" and that 1st degree may have been easier to prove than 2nd degree murder.

While I did not think the prosecution did a very good job during the witness phase they did have a strong and compelling closing statement. Let us hope that justice is served.

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May the force, and words of Prosecutor John Guy, be with them...... nt Ninga Jul 2013 #1
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ hlthe2b Jul 2013 #2
Justice for Trayvon and his family warrior1 Jul 2013 #3
the deliberations could take an hour or days. nt Deep13 Jul 2013 #4
Hey George sorefeet Jul 2013 #5
not holding my breath .... even though the whole thing stinks srican69 Jul 2013 #6
One word, six letters. Guilty. Guilty of gun extremism, overt racism, and murder. nt onehandle Jul 2013 #7
I never try Berlin Expat Jul 2013 #8
"....guilty of gun extremism....." What is the punishment for that? Duckwraps Jul 2013 #21
I dunno but presumably "firing squad" is off the list. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #26
LOL!!!!!!! Duckwraps Jul 2013 #27
Jury has to believe that GZ was able to get at his gun chelsea0011 Jul 2013 #9
And being choked. Hayabusa Jul 2013 #13
Don't forget that TM was able to do all of this damage while holding a bag of Skittles, displacedtexan Jul 2013 #28
Actually, the police report states that the skittles were found in Trayvon's pocket onenote Jul 2013 #29
Can't see 2nd Degree ... Lenomsky Jul 2013 #10
He began it because there were no witnesses and he thought he could get away with shoooting him. bushisanidiot Jul 2013 #14
He did mean to kill Trayvon! tblue Jul 2013 #30
You Defined Premeditation (Meant To Kill) DallasNE Jul 2013 #37
second degree because he had ill will Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #40
There was only 4" differences in their heights, but cardboard cutouts were about 1 foot difference. bushisanidiot Jul 2013 #11
"for being black" tblue Jul 2013 #31
every dangerous person I've had to deal with, or protect myself from, has been white. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #41
Me, too. korak Jul 2013 #43
not sure of the source of this... neohippie Jul 2013 #12
Keep In Mind DallasNE Jul 2013 #38
I just John2 Jul 2013 #15
I really hope the riots aren't too bad here in Florida geomon666 Jul 2013 #16
Maybe I've watched too much Law and Order, but..... chuckstevens Jul 2013 #17
Playing the race card, Duckwraps Jul 2013 #19
You're Right, but chuckstevens Jul 2013 #25
I think what Mr. Guy did regarding race was brilliant. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #42
The Case Ended As It Started DallasNE Jul 2013 #18
Well, after seeing John2 Jul 2013 #20
Good Point DallasNE Jul 2013 #24
"Could have." Igel Jul 2013 #35
That Wasn't My Point DallasNE Jul 2013 #39
Zimmerman's " punks always get away" attitude is stuck in my mind. So Zimmerman was lumpy Jul 2013 #32
If the cop who "accidentally" killed Oscar Grant could serve time for manslaughter, alp227 Jul 2013 #22
I can't wait to see it. tblue Jul 2013 #33
@AP: BREAKING: Jury in Zimmerman murder trial has a question for judge; they want an index of all ev Hissyspit Jul 2013 #23
That's good. Igel Jul 2013 #36
In recess = no verdict hexola Jul 2013 #34
buba is a waiting... QUALITYCONTRoll Jul 2013 #44
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