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In reply to the discussion: Russian and Ukraine troops battle in south, prompting fears that invasion has begun [View all]reorg
(3,317 posts)Those who are killing civilians daily are the Ukrainian military and Nazi militias.
And what is the lie Putin made up to justify it -- the still not investigated shootings in Kiev after a consensus was reached? The massacre in Odessa? The recruitment of Nazis into the "National Guard"?
Two of the Russian leaders in the revolt, Borodai and Girkin, are closely connected with circles that according to several sources represent about 10 percent of the Russian electorate. Borodai participated in the coup against Gorbachev, like Alexander Prochanow, supposedly the main propagandist of the "National Front". Vaguely described sometimes as "ultra-nationalist" and fascist or as remnants of the old Communist nomenklatura, or both, they are neither left nor right wingers in traditional terms. While they don't speak for Putin, they are not fringe elements either, well established and visible in the media. The Putin advisor Sergei Glaziev who ran for president against Putin in 2004 is counted among them. No doubt they have good connections in the military and the intelligence service. I don't see why they would not have access to considerable financial resources, too.
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