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NNadir

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35. I really can't believe that people believe this sort of thing.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 09:55 PM
Dec 2025

The "shots" are vaccines, not treatments. If one already has Covid or the flu, vaccines are useless.

There are treatments for both flu and Covid but they are not injectable drugs.

Tamiflu (oseltamivir), Xofluza (baloxavir), Relenza (zanamivir), and Rapivab (peramivir)
for flu, Paxlovid for Covid are oral drugs.

It is true for retroviruses in particular with fast reproduction - and thus evolution - rates, resistant strains to vaccines develop quickly so the disease can still occur, generally in a milder form as the antibodies generated by B cells may have lower binding efficiency, but vaccines prevent disease, they do not cure it.

For treatments this can also occur. We saw this with the early protease inhibitors for AIDS, aspartyl proteases, p55 gag proteins, where resistance developed generally along single nucleotide polymorphisms (and on occasion, multiple nucleotide polymorphisms, for example the M46I/I47V/I50V mutations that showed resistance to Amprenavir).

This is not a place to spread misinformation about the difference between vaccines and treatments.

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Well. it always has to be someone [View all] Jilly_in_VA Dec 2025 OP
Oh blech! I hope you feel better soon! CousinIT Dec 2025 #1
A friend of mine Delarage Dec 2025 #2
The actual problem with this year's flu shot is NOT that research was cut PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2025 #18
curious... Tetrachloride Dec 2025 #21
But true, nonetheless. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2025 #22
Good to know! Delarage Dec 2025 #23
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I do wish that you will be able to enjoy at least the spirit of Christmas today. riversedge Dec 2025 #3
Me too!! leftieNanner Dec 2025 #4
Yikes. Bad timing for the illness, Jilly! LuckyCharms Dec 2025 #5
Best recovery. cachukis Dec 2025 #6
I missed all four Christmas parties of the groups I'm involved with The Blue Flower Dec 2025 #7
The shots don't prevent COVID or flu, they just mitigate the disease. Best to test so you know what you have Blues Heron Dec 2025 #8
Correct! biophile Dec 2025 #11
No, it was designed to be a COVID vaccine. Vaccines don't prevent infection, it's not a protective bubble Blues Heron Dec 2025 #16
I'm agreeing with you; but probably expressing it poorly biophile Dec 2025 #24
The goal with all vaccines is to create the best response possible, lifetime immunity if possible Blues Heron Dec 2025 #25
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I really can't believe that people believe this sort of thing. NNadir Dec 2025 #35
Awful! Dear_Prudence Dec 2025 #9
My 5 year old step-Granddaughter is sick this year. House of Roberts Dec 2025 #10
You could still have the flu biophile Dec 2025 #12
Healing vibes on the way to you, Jilly! SheltieLover Dec 2025 #13
Trump is back in power and he brings with him another pandemic, methinks. rurallib Dec 2025 #14
Get well wishes to you 🙏 TommieMommy Dec 2025 #15
Merry Christmas! I am on day 7 of what sounds like the same thing. The good news: Scrivener7 Dec 2025 #17
Sounds like the current variant of Covid. Hope22 Dec 2025 #19
Bummer. I hope you are much better soon. LoisB Dec 2025 #20
Everyone around me bamagal62 Dec 2025 #26
they have never claimed you cannot get covid/or flu if you are vaccinated Skittles Dec 2025 #27
I got Covid after having all the shots. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #28
Feel better soon Jilly_in_VA. MIButterfly Dec 2025 #29
I had all vaccines and have Flu A, as does my husband. halobeam Dec 2025 #30
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There is a new strain. Codifer Dec 2025 #31
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