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Propaganda Debunking

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Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 07:18 PM Dec 2011

I just want to make sure [View all]

this is where we can get information to counter arguments in those stupid emails that are constantly sent to us.

Just got an email and I don't have a good response, and I do not like being left without a response. I also try to answer with a civil manner that I do not feel. Facts, not attacks.

If this is not where I come for help with this, just ignore this.

Here is the email:

First Story

The day the democrats took over was not January 22, 2009, it was actually January 3,2007. This is the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, the start of the 110th Congress.

The Democrat Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103 rd Congress in 1995.

For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's Fault", remember the day,

(January 3, 2007) the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress.

At the time:

The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!

Remember, that day? Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee. The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy? BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

THANK YOU DEMOCRATS for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment... to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things), dumping $5-6 TRILLION of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!

(GEORGE BUSH ASKED CONGRESS 17 TIMES TO STOP FANNIE & FREDDIE - STARTING IN 2001 - BECAUSE IT WAS FINANCIALLY RISKY FOR THE US ECONOMY).

And who took the THIRD highest campaign pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA!!!!!

And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie? OBAMA and the Democrat Congress.

So when someone tries to blame Bush...

REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007.... THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"

Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving.

Set the record straight on Bush!

"It's not that liberals aren't smart, it's just that so much of what they know isn't so" -Ronald Reagan

But it's Bush's Fault!

As president Reagan said (paraphrasing): "The facts can be stubborn realities to deal with."

PLEASE KEEP THIS ONE GOING IN HOPES THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND WHOSE FAULT THIS HUGE DEFICIT ACTUALLY IS!!!!!!!!!

Second Story

The Washington Post babbled again recently about Obama inheriting a huge deficit from Bush. Amazingly enough,

a lots of people swallow this BULL.

So once more, a short civics lesson.

Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress - since

January 2007, it has been the Democrat Party.

Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008, 2009, as well as 2010 and 2011.

DURING THAT TIME THERE HAS BEEN NO BUDGETS PASSED!

In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush

somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

For fiscal year 2009, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid by-passed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government

running until Obama could take office. Then they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budgets.

And where was Obama during this time? He was a member of the very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills.

And then, as President, he signed the omnibus bill into law!

Let's remember what the deficits looked like during that period:

If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in
five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Obama, who voted for the budgets.

If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.

In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is: "I inherited a deficit that I voted for, and then I have expanded that deficit four-fold since
I took office".

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