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socialist_n_TN

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21. I belong to a group called Workers Power, a part of the League........
Sun May 10, 2015, 07:45 PM
May 2015

for the Fifth International. As such I'm WAY to the left of Kshama Sawant (I consider her right centrist or even left reformist) and we're probably to the left of the ISO too. As such, MANY of the things that I read, even in this group, I disagree with more or less. And I will argue my points, BUT ...

I think that one way to avoid some of the pitfalls you mentioned is to keep the arguments into the realm of theoretical discussion and not get real specific about personalities. This is one way that this group has, so far, avoided some of the more heated, polemical Stalinist vs Trotskyist debates that have divided the left and other boards. Not that I won't argue against what I consider Stalinist conceptions of party organization and their theoretical concepts, I just will do it without calling it Stalinist. I've found that when you keep the arguments on a purely theoretical level, you can avoid a lot of grief. Hope this helps.

you answered your own question here : Romeo.lima333 May 2015 #1
I'm a bit confused by your response. F4lconF16 May 2015 #2
I would think it's fine to support Kshama Sawant and similar candidates Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #3
Ah. F4lconF16 May 2015 #5
Thanks Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #7
It's crappy the way they are going after Sawant vive la commune May 2015 #18
You are correct. F4lconF16 May 2015 #29
I have been overwhelmed by the support for Bernie here ~ TBF May 2015 #4
Thanks for the response. F4lconF16 May 2015 #10
IMO calling for "agitators on the streets" or a full blown country wide work stoppage is different Vincardog May 2015 #14
Yes, agreed. F4lconF16 May 2015 #15
The amount of violence in a socialist revolution is in direct proportion...... socialist_n_TN May 2015 #20
Same here. F4lconF16 May 2015 #25
I was hoping you'd chime in ~ TBF May 2015 #30
Just keep it in theoretical terms T......... socialist_n_TN May 2015 #32
I support Bernie Sanders myself, vive la commune May 2015 #22
My personal view is that the limiting factor of capitalism is going to be climate change. F4lconF16 May 2015 #26
As far as I can tell, as long as we don't advocate violence Starry Messenger May 2015 #6
That's good... F4lconF16 May 2015 #11
I totally agree about the tea party vive la commune May 2015 #23
The Democratic Party is a tool. Bernie knows! yallerdawg May 2015 #8
I think this is where the discussion hinges on whether you are a revolutionary or revisionary F4lconF16 May 2015 #13
The section of the proletariat in the US that is doing well is getting smaller and smaller... vive la commune May 2015 #24
I speak my mind, truthfully. Maedhros May 2015 #9
Fair enough. F4lconF16 May 2015 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #16
Some very good points... F4lconF16 May 2015 #17
Great discussion dreamnightwind May 2015 #19
I belong to a group called Workers Power, a part of the League........ socialist_n_TN May 2015 #21
There are some of us here who are well left of center. guillaumeb May 2015 #27
Only every day ;) F4lconF16 May 2015 #28
You are fortunate to be in Seattle TBF May 2015 #31
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