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usonian

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10. The rich have helicopters.

Reply to Auggie (Original post)

Sun Mar 19, 2023, 09:29 AM

Mar 2023

That said, a luxury vehicle would undoubtedly pay the same as a beater driven by someone making minimum wage. And tolls are flat, not graduated, nor a percentage, so the economic impact hits the poorest most.

Look for this to get voted down, unless MTC is one of those authorities that has divine right.

WFH works a lot better. Companies could pay per cubby, BUT THAT WOULD BE TAXING THE WEALTHY.
And by the way, attacking the symptom does not attack the underlying cause, the highly prized concentration of jobs.

FWIW, I commuted for almost 10 years on BART to jobs.
But those were in Berkeley and SF, extremely handy to BART.
The rest weren't.

And use the archive.
https://archive.ph/ROvEd

Go to archive.ph and paste the URL.
For reasons probably having to do with my long list of browser extensions, it was not blocked for me.
Try clearing cookies now and then.

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A per-mile highway toll? It's being studied for the Bay Area. [View all] Auggie Mar 2023 OP

NJ Turnpike is sort of like that. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #1

As a former frequent driver on it, I'd pay tolls and gasoline tax, when 80% of mileage was on it. TheBlackAdder Mar 2023 #2

I read this as more of a congestion issue than an EV issue. But I couldn't get the Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #3

Oh, I didn't read it. It's just one of the excuses toll road proponents use to justify the fleecing. TheBlackAdder Mar 2023 #4

Lol! Yep! I bet you're right! Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #5

I was one of those that fought former Gov. Jon Corzine's toll road scam he was trying to implement. TheBlackAdder Mar 2023 #6

Thanks for your posts Auggie Mar 2023 #9

Not that I'm knocking your article, but in most states, don't they already have admin. boards SWBTATTReg Mar 2023 #18

It depends on how the charter is written. It won't use the standard State DOT commission. TheBlackAdder Mar 2023 #21

It's a congestion and carbon emissions story Auggie Mar 2023 #8

They kind of do that with the express lane. They better have adequate affordable mass transit if JohnSJ Mar 2023 #7

The rich have helicopters. usonian Mar 2023 #10

The jobs that the poor are concentrated in are not able to WFH MichMan Mar 2023 #11

Exactly. Additionally, most have been priced out of the Bay Area ... Auggie Mar 2023 #13

Why would the "skies be clouded by attendant pollution" ? MichMan Mar 2023 #12

Public transit conundrum lambchopp59 Mar 2023 #14

These "Bay Area transportation planners" must be new to the area. Mr.Bill Mar 2023 #15

It got worse. Especially in the North Bay. Auggie Mar 2023 #16

I'm sure it did. Mr.Bill Mar 2023 #17

Again, TFG is way ahead of us. Flying cars! Who needs roads? Midnight Writer Mar 2023 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author Midnight Writer Mar 2023 #20

Great. Grind down the working man/woman The Mouth Mar 2023 #22

It's just an idea for now Auggie Mar 2023 #23

A stupid, elitist, anti-working class one The Mouth Mar 2023 #24