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It's not for us. It's all too real.

You have little idea of the dynamics at play here. You're craven that standing up for something that's right will deprive your precious "Jeremy" and Labour of their chance to screw up as badly as the Tories if they don't change their current trajectory.

It's not sequential. The very process of Brexit hands theoretically pretty much unlimited power to the Tories via the Great Repeal Act because of Labour's failure to take a stand earlier in the process when the way was cleared for the government to repeal any legislation that Act will embody into UK law without having to consult parliament, let alone hold votes.

As things stand, there's nothing constitutionally standing in the way of a future government (this one technically hasn't taken power yet) stripping away decades of human rights and worker and environmental protection legislation. Part of that is opening up our NHS to increased privatization and greater involvement of (especially US) multinationals.

Labour may hit lucky if we have another election soon, but it's a gamble, no government should have unlimited power like that, and as we've seen recently, political fortunes can turn on a sixpence at the moment. You can't grasp this, and I'm tired of having to explain all this to you over and over again (in this thread alone!). If you read the post at the link I gave you, those 51 Labour Party members have put out a pretty coherent statement of what's at stake, so read it if you're that interested.

And if I was very cynical and independence meant more than anything else to me, I'd be rooting for a Tory majority in the UK - which party was in power when Scotland held the last referendum? But I'm not a Scottish Labour Party politician, so I never root for the Tories.

If you were very cynical, you'd be thanking your lucky stars that Labour didn't win the last election, because Brexit is unworkable, and the party in power while it's being negotiated is likely to pay very dearly electorally, as they'll own the disaster.

Now give it a rest, huh?