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Denzil_DC

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7. I'd like to see quite a bit more clear water between the Tories and Labour

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 08:11 AM

Nov 2017

before I felt like that.

It would potentially be a mould-breaking election when all bets are off, but the conventional knowledge is that because of the way our electoral college works, Labour needs a lead of around 7 points to at least be able to form a majority, let alone a substantial one.

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Any theories as to how long May can delay a new election? [View all] Ken Burch Nov 2017 OP

Until the government collapses T_i_B Nov 2017 #1

As much as I want the Tories out, I also want the DUP to face electoral punishment over this Ken Burch Nov 2017 #2

I don't think the DUP would be punished by voters for this LeftishBrit Nov 2017 #3

Well, times change, but this was from 2010: Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #4

A snap election can't come soon enough. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #5

I wouldn't credit the DUP with that much T_i_B Nov 2017 #6

I'd like to see quite a bit more clear water between the Tories and Labour Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #7

I'm for even more clear water than there is, although there's a lot more than previously. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #8

The latest poll I've seen showed Labour 3 points ahead. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #11

In theory, Labour should be much further ahead in the polls T_i_B Nov 2017 #12

I think at times recently Labour have been providing a more effective opposition. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #13

OK, somehow I hadn't see this earlier. I'll respond now. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #23

I've addressed pretty much all this at quite some length below. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #28

I thought I owed it to you to respond to this post when I saw it. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #29

You would agree that any continued anti-Corbyn efforts, including expulsions of his supporters, Ken Burch Nov 2017 #20

No. T_i_B Nov 2017 #37

To clarify, I wasn't condemning every single expulsion. Misogynists should be expelled. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #40

Wrong T_i_B Nov 2017 #41

OK...you can't seriously argue that there are people who are antiracist AND antisemitic. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #42

You really don't have experience of people in real life do you? T_i_B Nov 2017 #43

I have plenty of experence in real life. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #44

Given that you keep posting the same old theoretical bollocks T_i_B Nov 2017 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Nov 2017 #49

I haven't mentioned the EU once on this thread T_i_B Nov 2017 #50

I have read the other posts...I'm sorry I misdirected that response to you. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #51

Christ, have you never ever misread something? Ken Burch Nov 2017 #53

I've met some. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #46

Oh...to clarify...by "clear blue water", I thought you meant policy differences. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #14

Do you not actually read anything anybody posts? T_i_B Nov 2017 #15

I read what he posted. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #21

In that particular post, I was plainly referring to clear water in terms of polling. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #16

You seem to think I'm a closet Leaver Ken Burch Nov 2017 #17

Bleedin' Ada. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #18

I'm only speaking for myself, and am not trying to convince you personally, Denzil. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #19

Now you REALLY are trying my patience, as if you hadn't already. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #22

OK, a reset is a good idea. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #24

It would also help if you'd stop making major edits to your posts after you've written them. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #25

Fair enough. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #26

Well, it mattered a bit more this time because you added questions to the end. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #27

When I started this thread, I never meant to get into Brexit. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #30

I didn't say that I thought a reset was a great idea. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #31

I don't disagree with a single thing you've said there. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #32

Well, to return to my entry to this discussion, Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #33

OK. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #34

The problem is this: Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #38

Denzil, I'm not trying to persuade YOU to vote Labour. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #39

Why do you think Labour's support would plummet if it supported Remain? LeftishBrit Nov 2017 #35

I DON'T condemn Labour's support for Remain in the referendum. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #36

"I do think it's time that people stop blaming Corbyn for the Leave victory" Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #47

Look, this all started because I honestly misunderstood what Denzil meant by "clear blue water". Ken Burch Nov 2017 #48

Jeebus. This "small group of you that post in the UK group" Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #54

Wasn't meaning to lecture...I respect your views on the EU and truly wasn't challenging them. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #55

OK...I misread it. In terms of UK politics, I'm used to seeing the term "clear blue water" Ken Burch Nov 2017 #52

She'll call an election The King of Prussia Nov 2017 #9

I thought she would have done it around october syringis Nov 2017 #10

Ok. I live in England and from NI so I have opinions on both these things....... Soph0571 Nov 2017 #56

Thank you for that. there's a fair amount of things in there I didn't know. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #57

Unfortunately the community is divided and always will be Soph0571 Nov 2017 #58