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In reply to the discussion: Any theories as to how long May can delay a new election? [View all]Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Didn't realize you meant polling results.
Even though the election is over and there's no reason for this to still be happening, a lot of the Labour Right types are STILL expelling Corbyn supporters(often on what they KNOW are bogus accusations of anti-Semitism-I assume you'd concede that it isn't anti-Semitism simply to be a post-Zionist) and are doing that
As to Brexit, I think it should be avoided if possible-not sure it still CAN be avoided, but yes, I'd rather not see it happen-but asking Labour to take an strong anti-Brexit position now is asking them to let UKIP come back from the dead-a revival of UKIP can only help the Tories and can only make bigotry worse-is not the way to do that. What matters first is getting the Tories out of power, which can only be achieved by electing Labour(after the last election, there's no place where voting LibDem is the way to the way to beat the Tories)and THEN lobbying hard against it.
It goes without saying that if Labour goes all-out anti-Brexit now, that guarantees another Tory government and THAT guarantees Brexit. It's not possible for any party to win the next election by making "stop Brexit" the dominant issue, though.
Also(and I know you are angry about what Labour did in Scotland and actually agree with you that the decision to form a common front with the Scottish Tories), Labour did much better than "avoiding a bloodbath". They increased their vote share by 10 percentage points, gained thirty seats, and deprived the Tories of a majority-and did so while their leader was subjected to a level of sabotage no other party leader in UK politics has ever experienced-At the beginning of the campaign 12 Labour MPs gave up their seats in what was clearly a coordinated effort to humiliate the man into resigning-Labour held 11 of those 12 seats-and despite that, Jeremy Corbyn ran an amazing campaign. Now, Labour is in the lead-a small lead, but a lead-for the first time since he was elected-which strongly suggests that, had the right wing of his party simply accepted him in the job in the first place rather than spending years savaging him and treating the overwhelming majority of Labour members and supporters with sneering, anti-democratic contempt, that the Tories would be out of office by now and the chance of avoiding Brexit would be much greater.