Election Reform

alfredo

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53. Our vote is not counted in secret. There are witnesses from all parties and the media present.

Reply to questionseverything (Reply #49)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 01:24 PM

Nov 2015

The trust comes from transparency of the process and the results. If they do anything to betray that trust I will pull my support.

You can watch them cut the seals then pull the cards from the machines. They are read, the numbers are checked with the result tapes.

The only way to mess with the cards is to break the numbered seal. The voting machines are protected by a seal, before and after the vote.

Soon we will be getting new machines, and I know they want to purchase machines that provide a voter verified paper trail.

I've gone over this time and time again, but I can see that no matter what I say I see distrust. You don't know the people I work with, you know nothing of their intelligence and ethics. I have worked with them for over a decade, and not once have they done anything to diminish my trust.

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Unverified results of KY's governor's race [View all] Stevepol Nov 2015 OP

Voting in America is a joke fasttense Nov 2015 #1

Not a joke. A tragedy. nt valerief Nov 2015 #14

And there are forces that want everyone to think like this and just stay home L. Coyote Nov 2015 #18

The mainstream media has not picked up this story yet perdita9 Nov 2015 #2

Ratings game so they can get more commercial(s) money from Diebold..................plus............ turbinetree Nov 2015 #5

It's is why hellraiser69 Nov 2015 #7

I think so for your enjoyment.............................. turbinetree Nov 2015 #11

They likely Won't report fredamae Nov 2015 #17

The same math that all the scientists think is so great says this election was a fraud. If it stands jtuck004 Nov 2015 #3

If the party sees any sign of fraud, they will challenge the results. Remember, the outgoing alfredo Nov 2015 #54

K & R ctsnowman Nov 2015 #4

K & R SunSeeker Nov 2015 #6

Republicans cheat ... end of story Botany Nov 2015 #8

K&R tecelote Nov 2015 #9

Simple enough to check, what does the exit polling say? Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #10

Something stinks here, K&R. ck4829 Nov 2015 #12

Future news: Javaman Nov 2015 #13

So this is a 12 to 14 point discrepancy... Jerry442 Nov 2015 #15

Our candidate was weak. He makes Gore look loosey goosey. alfredo Nov 2015 #58

Rachel Maddow pointed out ejbr Nov 2015 #16

Here is the breakdown of the vote alfredo Nov 2015 #19

Let me get this straight. Stevepol Nov 2015 #20

I've been working with this same group nearly 15 yrs. alfredo Nov 2015 #22

I believe they are all ethical. I also believe the smog shops that passed mhatrw Nov 2015 #26

As yet I have not had any nasty surprises, the vote reflects the county. alfredo Nov 2015 #67

no they don't count paper by hand questionseverything Nov 2015 #25

Does your county have a voter verified paper audit trail? mhatrw Nov 2015 #21

Not in the polling place, but there are a lot of eyes watching the count alfredo Nov 2015 #23

Again, I am not saying that your county's machines are not counting fairly. mhatrw Nov 2015 #24

The software is tested to make sure. alfredo Nov 2015 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Nov 2015 #31

I am a computer programmer. mhatrw Nov 2015 #32

the numbers have matched every time. Results also matched expectations. alfredo Nov 2015 #40

I get that everyone else involved is legit, but the voting machine manufacturers mhatrw Nov 2015 #42

We are doing the best with the machines we have. So far there has been no red flags. alfredo Nov 2015 #44

Our county clerk is an experienced computer programmer. His bio alfredo Nov 2015 #56

how do you "watch" a computer count? questionseverything Nov 2015 #27

They test the vote. If they get out what they put in, it's pass. alfredo Nov 2015 #29

a 14 point swing seems suspicious to me questionseverything Nov 2015 #33

Oh sure. Like I said I can only vouch for my county. alfredo Nov 2015 #36

you can not "vouch" for your county,only the perception you have of your county questionseverything Nov 2015 #38

I see the read out at the end of the day. Then alfredo Nov 2015 #39

The numbers that you check would agree with the totals regardless. Stevepol Nov 2015 #41

So far the final vote from my precinct is the same after counting at the Cnty clerk. alfredo Nov 2015 #43

What does this mean? Stevepol Nov 2015 #60

The data is saved in three places in the machine, then there is the print out. alfredo Nov 2015 #61

Yes. mhatrw Nov 2015 #47

checking the voters list to see how many questionseverything Nov 2015 #48

That's never happened in this county. If it does, there will be an inquiry. alfredo Nov 2015 #62

the trust me system questionseverything Nov 2015 #30

At some point you have to trust those who have earned your trust. alfredo Nov 2015 #45

Why do we have to trust machine counts? mhatrw Nov 2015 #46

People count the result tape votes from each precinct, not machines. alfredo Nov 2015 #50

None of this matters if the software or firmware has been programmed to cheat mhatrw Nov 2015 #63

It hasn't been in our county because the results were as expected. alfredo Nov 2015 #65

our democracy is not built on trust questionseverything Nov 2015 #49

Our vote is not counted in secret. There are witnesses from all parties and the media present. alfredo Nov 2015 #53

yes your votes are counted in secret by secret software that no one can see working questionseverything Nov 2015 #57

Our county clerk is a computer programmer. alfredo Nov 2015 #59

then he knows this is possible questionseverything Nov 2015 #64

My questions about the security of the eSlate and the security measures locally are very good. alfredo Nov 2015 #66

one thing you got right,you will never convince me that any non transparent method questionseverything Nov 2015 #68

fayette county is lexington DAMANgoldberg Nov 2015 #34

Other than... BradBlog Nov 2015 #35

That Dem won because the previous gov was Ernie Fletcher. (R) alfredo Nov 2015 #37

And nobody will actually do a fucking thing about it as our country swirls down the catbyte Nov 2015 #51

The point of this voter suppression B.S. is to make you think like that. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #71

Has anything actually been done? I'll continue to vote & urge others to until I die. catbyte Nov 2015 #72

I have no doubt a GOPer can win in Kentucky. We got beat. Blaming it on Hoyt Nov 2015 #52

I"ve been a Ky election official for longer than I've been on DU. alfredo Nov 2015 #55

Nobody is impugning the "good guys" in KY politics but maybe Stevepol Nov 2015 #69

The SoS will have to sign off on the results, so we will see what she says. alfredo Nov 2015 #70