Barack Obama

Agnosticsherbet

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55. Which makes his signature achievement center right and Obama Center Right on healthcare.

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 02:29 PM

Aug 2013

Words mean nothing, only actions. His actions in health-care was to support and propose a center-right solution. (The Public option was never even given a vote on the floor.) As for trying things that won't pass. How many times have Republicans passed a bill to end "Obamacare?" If they can tilt 47 times at a fucking windmill, we could have tilted once. Another model for the bill is the Massachusetts law, also center-right. He set out to pass a center-right bill and got it.

Glad he did it, because the system is better than it was. But socialism it isn't. It is a Center-right bill that will, over the next decades need a lot of changes to make it a workable solution for everyone.

What signature policy from the center-left has he put through. (There is only one I know of.) He didn't start out supporting it. What is it?

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Why do some people keep calling Obama "center-right"? [View all] Jamaal510 Aug 2013 OP

Many think extreme comments get more attention. DCBob Aug 2013 #1

It's about the time. If General Eisenhower were President now, he would be middle to center right. BlueJazz Aug 2013 #2

As he was when he was elected. Eisenhower was no political ideologue in any sense. Ikonoklast Aug 2013 #62

because they are spoild ninnies who have no clue. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #3

+1 freshwest Aug 2013 #41

I am guessing you are young Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #69

President Obama chooses the people he thinks are the best Cha Aug 2013 #70

He's an institutional conservative leveymg Aug 2013 #4

Hi Leveymg, sheshe2 Aug 2013 #13

Trolling mwrguy Aug 2013 #5

Bullshit. Democrats are free to criticize from the Left. That's not trolling or even trollish. leveymg Aug 2013 #7

Yeah, you're free to "criticize" President Obama.. all over Cha Aug 2013 #12

Of course...coming to the BOG to bash Obama is not trolling, right? SunSeeker Aug 2013 #17

Have you ever wondered Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #18

And yet … 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #29

And there are those that troll safe haven groups. JTFrog Aug 2013 #21

Maybe you can understand this comparison: IrishAyes Aug 2013 #34

I am guessing you are a recent Democrat or... Notafraidtoo Aug 2013 #6

Because it makes them Cha Aug 2013 #8

+1 JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #20

.. Cha Aug 2013 #23

If Lincoln ran today ... zbdent Aug 2013 #9

Reality Robbins Aug 2013 #10

Labels! They love throwing those out. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #11

Because Obama dennis4868 Aug 2013 #14

Because ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #15

uh... IrishAyes Aug 2013 #35

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #36

Because they have confused libertarianism with liberalism. The LP and Paulies are using that tack. freshwest Aug 2013 #16

^^^^^ hopemountain Aug 2013 #31

I would be happy to debate this point with you vigorously outside the confines of this safe harbor DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #37

Well, you fully understand that GD is the place for that. IrishAyes Aug 2013 #42

KUDOS to you! IrishAyes Aug 2013 #43

I want to take that post and beat people over the head with it. Ikonoklast Aug 2013 #63

Purported leftists can't wrap their minds around pragmatic liberals. BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #19

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #22

I thnk we have a good example of this.. with the post Cha Aug 2013 #24

Right In_The_Wind Aug 2013 #25

They have been buying the Ron Paul, Libertarian, Teabagger kool-aid, themselves: freshwest Aug 2013 #28

Exactly, thank you, freshwest! We're the Party of Common Sense Progressive Cha Aug 2013 #30

Because they're wrong. bravenak Aug 2013 #26

hard to answer in BOG zipplewrath Aug 2013 #27

He wasn't asking you.. he was asking BOG members. Cha Aug 2013 #40

Okay, but.... zipplewrath Aug 2013 #46

No worries.. we have your number after all these years. Cha Aug 2013 #53

Are you insinuating IrishAyes Aug 2013 #44

No zipplewrath Aug 2013 #45

And you couldn't give the rest of us - including the OP - credit for already knowing that? IrishAyes Aug 2013 #47

Wow, touched a nerve zipplewrath Aug 2013 #48

If you play golf like a demented traffic cop, IrishAyes Aug 2013 #49

Too late to "mind your manners".. Cha Aug 2013 #56

This is the Barack Obama Group for members only. End of story. Cha Aug 2013 #54

As a long time, and pretty good golfer ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #66

Duh Doctor_J Aug 2013 #50

Perhaps Jamaal is perfectly capable IrishAyes Aug 2013 #58

Because Fox News uses the phrase "center right" all the time. freshwest Aug 2013 #32

The only reason you're confused IrishAyes Aug 2013 #33

+1,000 freshwest Aug 2013 #38

Part of it is a combination of rising expectations and pent up demand from years of frustration. grantcart Aug 2013 #39

Agreed; but it seems … 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #67

Well, the Affordable Care Act is essentially the 1993 Republican Healthcare Plan. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2013 #51

Going in with a 'center left" solution wouldn't have passed.. Cha Aug 2013 #52

Which makes his signature achievement center right and Obama Center Right on healthcare. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2013 #55

Bullshit. Only to those who don't get it. Cha Aug 2013 #57

And tell them ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #59

Hey.. I read reports that actually PBO is quite strong with "Liberals" which Cha Aug 2013 #60

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #61

Well … 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #68

What part of this is a safe haven for those who support President Coolest Ranger Aug 2013 #64

Hey Coolest Ranger.. Cha Aug 2013 #65

My my, you sure were busy yesterday! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #71

Re: Jamal Coolest Ranger Aug 2013 #72

Because it is a lazy, easy, slur designed to denigrate his Democratic credentials. Hekate Aug 2013 #73