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(53,661 posts)It looks like that great escape won't be to Canada after all. But most of them have been brain washed by CT, so they think they know all about Russia. It's a cool place. Okay, cold as can be in the winter, but hey...
Russia may even want them, if they convert to one of the largest faiths there, Russian Orthodox or Islam. Since their real objection is religious, they might pick the Christian model. Since many may be Protestants, they may feel squeamish. But hey...
They will also have to be willing to live under the Russian conscription laws which may or may not be a good idea. Since many are chicken hawks, they likely think they can buy their way out of it and there's a good chance of that. But they may fail, as others have:
A significant portion of Russians of conscript age try to avoid conscription, mostly because of specific code of violence which has developed in the army since 1967 called Dedovshchina and also poor conditions in Russian Army, which makes large number of conscript-age Russian youth worry about their health or even lives while in the army...
Just not going to a draft station draft-dodging. This is a criminal offence, punishable by up to two years in prison, depending on the time spent dodging. Russian police and military draft boards often perform conscription through detention [1]. Quite often the would-be recruit would avoid signing the papers that require to pass the board instead. Without that, the "invitation" is considered undelivered, and not showing up is not illegal. In practice, that means living a decade off the grid. This is countered by knocking the doors at 5 AM and having the recruit sign before he would become fully conscious...
The Russian voencoms respond by using increasingly illegal means, referring to non-existent laws and acts, "losing" documents that jeopardize the chance of a conscript being deemed fit for duty, and continuous psychological pressure, with 2011 probably being the apex due to a low birthrate in 1993. Those that attempted a medical discharge and failed are often punished for their resistance by assigning them to the worst units and jobs possible, e.g. a conscript with a heart defect was forced to volunteer for contract frontline service because he almost died hulking around 50-kilo cauldrons several times every day, since his defect was 3 mm rather than 5. Voencoms are rumored (no other source is simply possible) to have established an unofficial bonus system for every conscript, especially if he was unfit for duty and yet conscripted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Russia
Oh my, Russia does not have a Bill of Rights. Or some of those others that are offensive to American conservatives. But not all is lost, for Russia is a mixed bag:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Russia
People so determined to take the rights of others in the USA, won't mind if they don't have a much bleeding heart liberal stuff over there.
Like Tom DeLay opined that he couldn't believe that a jury full of liberals would convict him. Since, they are all soft hearted.
I predict conservatives emigrating to Russia may have a change of heart and support Iran, Syria and others Russia does. They may even dump Israel off their prayer list.
BTW, I don't think talk of overthrowing government and killing their leaders will be protected as well as it is here, IDK. What do you guys think?
OTOH, taxes are low in Russia. But bribes are sometimes required. If they can jump through the hoops, I'm sure they'll fit right in!
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