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Major Hogwash

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36. Last month Senator Howard Baker died. This article is a different take on his famous question . . .
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 04:43 AM
Jul 2014

Washington — The most famous sentence Howard Baker ever uttered was his immortal line about Watergate: “What did the president know, and when did he know it?”

It was late June 1973. Senator Baker, who passed away on Thursday at his home in Tennessee, was the ranking Republican on the special Senate committee convened to investigate the 1972 break-in at Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate office building.

President Richard Nixon had conspired to cover up White House involvement in that break-in early after its discovery. But the country did not know that at the time. Baker didn’t either.

Nixon thought Baker would be his ally on a panel that might be dangerous. At the start, the Tennessee lawmaker had acted as if that might be the case. On Feb. 22, 1973, he met secretly with Nixon in the Oval Office. He told the president the committee planned to build political pressure slowly, taking testimony from smaller figures first and then moving to try to get appearances from higher-ranking officials such as Chief of Staff H.R. Haldeman. Nixon suggested a deal whereby the highest-ranking witnesses would give private testimony. Baker demurred. He could not have approved such an arrangement on his own in any case.

“At least Baker is smart enough to get through the meeting without being drawn into obstruction of justice himself,” wrote political scientist Jonathan Bernstein in a 2013 summary of the incident.

Then John Dean decided to come clean. Mr. Dean was White House counsel and a cover-up coordinator. (For instance, he had supervised payments of hush money to the Watergate burglars.) In early April, he began talking to the Senate committee and revealing what he knew. Nixon fired him on April 30.


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What’s forgotten today is that Baker thought he was protecting Nixon with that line. (emphasis mine) He was attempting to wall off the president from the actions of aides who might have done something wrong.

“He evidently meant to exculpate Nixon from prior knowledge of the break-in,” wrote historian Fred Emery in his book “Watergate: The Corruption of American Politics and the Fall of Richard Nixon.”

But Dean turned this question around. Among other things, he charged that Nixon had been involved in discussions about clemency for those who had carried out and organized the break-ins, as well as talks about payoffs. Dean said the president had continued these activities even after he, as White House counsel, had warned his boss of a “cancer” on the presidency.

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Then in early July, another Nixon aide revealed to the panel the existence of the White House tapes. A record existed that could prove whether Nixon or Dean was right.

At that point Baker continued to press, not for Nixon’s advantage, but for the truth. His careful and detailed questioning won him widespread national attention and praise.


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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Buzz/2014/0626/Howard-Baker-the-real-story-of-his-famous-Watergate-question

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Thanks, freshwest. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #2
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An earnest DUer had a post removed when she used the term "rat fucking" Kolesar Sep 2013 #13
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yes, pure evil hopemountain Sep 2013 #9
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Along with the DVDs sent out by a RW firm; and the ones that funded the film just before Benghazi... freshwest Sep 2013 #14
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Kick! Cha Sep 2013 #15
this is as good as a diagnosis hopemountain Sep 2013 #16
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They come in as Concern Trolls, as if they care about our deepest issues, as cited plus my views: freshwest Mar 2014 #21
Ah, so for example, a GOP Concern Troll might say: "I voted for Obama, and I'm disappointed Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #22
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So many Ratfuckers.. so little time. Greenwald's The big ol ratfucker but Cha Mar 2014 #25
Thanks for the post! People need to see how they are being played. riqster Mar 2014 #27
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Just going through a DU search and it broght this thread as a result. Sorry about your post. freshwest Sep 2014 #37
Kick.Rec.Kick.Rec.Kick.Rec. The stinking, pustulant, legacy of Dick Nixon must NEVER be forgotten. Hekate Mar 2014 #31
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I see we just had a timely kick. I'll second that. Hekate Jul 2014 #34
worth rereading and timely as hell. nt hopemountain Jul 2014 #35
Last month Senator Howard Baker died. This article is a different take on his famous question . . . Major Hogwash Jul 2014 #36
Addition to my Ratfucking (Donald Segretti) thread and why it works so well: freshwest Mar 2015 #39
Very true. n/t FSogol Mar 2015 #40
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