Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Barack Obama
Showing Original Post only (View all)President Obama: 'I believe in God.' [View all]
How To Handle A Heckler
By TheObamaDiary.com - Jul 30, 2014
Found on a link with a negative title, but more information. I don't think Obama characterizes these incidents that way:
President Obama Smacks Down Jesus Heckler By Saying 'I Believe In God'
By Yasmine Hafiz - 07/31/2014
A female heckler interrupted President Barack Obama's speech about the economy in Kansas City, Missouri, on Wednesday by
yelling, "Jesus is the lord of Israel!"*
Unfazed, Obama inquired, "I'm sorry, what are you hollering about?" as the woman repeated her cry. "OK," he said.
As she continued shouting, Obama retorted, "I believe in God, thanks for the prayer. Amen! Thank you."
Before he could go on with his speech, he was interrupted again, this time by the Missouri audience cheering and chanting, "We love you! We love you!"
...As the President arrived at Kansas City's Uptown Theater to deliver his remarks, demonstrators stood outside in protest. Vicki Sciolaro of Leawood came with her family to urge Obama to "do more to protect Israel," according to The Kansas City Star. "It's Biblical," she said. "As Christians, we want to stand with Israel. Well stay here til we fall over or someone tells us to go home..."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/31/obama-jesus-heckler_n_5639132.html
Perhaps acrimony gets page views, but the 'demonstrators stood outside in protest' phrase does not seem to reflect what is actually going on there. Why does media insist on promoting the idea that every crowd is 'protesting' Obama? For what? Doing his job as the POTUS? Or for being the POTUS?
They seem to be asking for help. They may be misinformed about PBO's support for Israel, which has garnered hatred from those who have good reason to feel Israel has acted with evilly with so many deaths and great suffering.
This thread is not the place to have that discussion, there are forums for that, and this a group about Obama and his supporters. I am expressing my own thoughts for my fellow members in the BOG.
If the group outside thought PBO has not supported Israel, they have been misinformed. He supports all sides in the conflict, and some can't abide his even-handedness, but his job demands that he be. I feel passions can be expressed without being hateful.
I think Obama does 'believe in God,' or else he wouldn't have the faith to keep at the job day in and day out. As Sheshe's thread shows, the 'gates of hell' have been opened on this man:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110224668
But he still believes in the ideals many Americans want fulfilled. More so than many people apparently do. He is 'a believer.'
In that picture, I see a strong man who is mustering strength by connecting with his 'higher power.' Look at that body language, Obama is preparing for to express his ideals. We've seen him wet with sweat or rain. There is a passion there many can't achieve without a clear vision to keep them going.
Many have been in situations in which one is all alone in fighting for what one thinks is right, and win the day because they called on their belief system or other organized thinking - to bolster them and it worked in the face of despair and fear. I count the actions of MLK, Jr. and others as proof of that.
And seeing that, I recall this poem:
The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.
~ Robert Frost
And also this verse:
"I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith..."
~2 Thessalonians 4 : 7, 8
In the words of that belief system, I think Obama would be one of whom is said at the end of his time on Earth:
'Well done, thou good and faithful servant.'
If it plays out as the Bible says, he will continue to be humble and say he was 'only doing his duty.' Humility opens the door to knowledge and achieving greater things, it is not an end in itself.
Whether one is into organized religion or not, there are patterns we follow in life, even if we are not conscious of them. They reflect who we really are.
I see a quality in Obama that I have seldom seen in the realm of politics, of transcendence, and of a person who 'walks the talk,' and it is beautiful to me.
JMHO.
Note: This is the BOG, a safe haven group created by the DU Admins. Please read the SOP.
*This doesn't appear to be the view of the people of Israel, but an American belief. I posted a video in a safe haven for believers on DU, if anyone wants to get a glimpse as to why the woman's claim doesn't hold much water there.
Lurkers, please don't disrespect the SOP of the group there:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12643570
InfoView thread info, including edit history
TrashPut this thread in your Trash Can (My DU » Trash Can)
BookmarkAdd this thread to your Bookmarks (My DU » Bookmarks)
18 replies, 6114 views
ShareGet links to this post and/or share on social media
AlertAlert this post for a rule violation
PowersThere are no powers you can use on this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
ReplyReply to this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
Rec (9)
ReplyReply to this post
18 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
K&R and many thanks, freshwest, for reaffirming the BOG purpose so beautifully.
classof56
Aug 2014
#5