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JoePhilly

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28. Does the President go on TV and "call for cuts"?
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 10:30 AM
Oct 2013

This is an important point in this discussion.

There is a a difference between dangling a carrot in front of the GOP, to get them to REACH for it, and "calling for cuts".

See ... if the President really wanted to cut social security, he had a real chance to do it back when the economy was in free fall. He could have explained to the American people that the cuts were necessary to help stop that collapse. And the American people would have bought it.

But that did not happen. Why not?

Moving beyond the collapse, does the President go out on the stump, or on TV and "call for cuts". No. Why not?

Because he's not in favor of them. He's daring the GOP to reach for the brass ring.

DU works itself into a frenzy every couple months on this point. And the same folks who used to predict ACTUAL impending cuts, had to walk that back and yet remain outraged even though nothing actually has happened. And they know it isn't going to happen.

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Chained-CPI FUD post #7286: Don't do what you have said you will not do, Mr. President. nt tridim Oct 2013 #1
Briefing room word games: What's a 'slash' versus a 'cut' in Social Security? MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #3
Sorry DU, Chained CPI FUD post #7286.1: tridim Oct 2013 #5
Well, he's called for cuts and offered cuts. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #9
Obama has not and will never cut SS. nt tridim Oct 2013 #25
Is chained CPI a 'cut'? Because chained CPI was in the President's budget proposal... PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #31
Under your reasoning, he would have never appointed the members of the Cat Food Commission. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #13
Obama has not, and will never cut SS. nt tridim Oct 2013 #26
You just have to be more patient. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #29
Is there an echo in here? Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #43
Still not happening. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #2
It's a man-bites-dog thing MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #4
The President and almost all Democrats support strengthening Social Security, not cutting it. tridim Oct 2013 #6
Then why did he appoint the Cat Food Commission? Why did he recommend the chained-CPI? AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #14
Obama has not and will never cut SS. nt tridim Oct 2013 #27
You didn't answer the two questions. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #30
Well Nancy Pelosi did indicate she thought the chained CPI proposal constituted 'strengthening' SS. PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #33
Is this the same Nancy Pelosi whose first act in 2006 was to take impeachment off the table? AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #41
There's a revolt? A weak article on commondreams does not a revolt make. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #7
And again... I predicted that Obama would call for cuts, and he did. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #8
You were sure the cat food commission JoePhilly Oct 2013 #10
It was created to propose cuts. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #15
Nope. Link or slink. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #17
So you admit ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #20
I admit that calling for cuts is calling for cuts. nt MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #23
And as you pointed out ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #24
So the defense is that the President is irrelevant? MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #36
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #42
I don't recall saying that it *would* happen. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #45
Okay manny. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #47
But you ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #12
So even you admit that he has called for and offered "cuts". AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #16
I never have denied that ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #18
Admit what? So he has called for increased revenue with CALLS FOR SS CUTS. Social Security doesn't AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #21
Admit that ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #22
Does the President go on TV and "call for cuts"? JoePhilly Oct 2013 #28
Does he go on TV and call for SS cuts? As often as he goes on TV to promote his TPP. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #32
So your answer is no. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #34
Do you mean that he doesn't go on TV to tell us about his pending approval of the TPP AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #35
I'd expect a right winger to change the subject when losing ... JoePhilly Oct 2013 #37
I also expect a right winger to change the subject when losing. I've seen that many times. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #39
So stay on topic and you can avoid seeing it. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author JoePhilly Oct 2013 #38
The President did do that, in 2011. eomer Oct 2013 #44
In each of those quotes ... what is the President doing? JoePhilly Oct 2013 #46
He was speaking to the American people in town halls over a several week period. eomer Oct 2013 #48
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #11
May Sens. Sanders and Warren..... TinkerTot55 Oct 2013 #19
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