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25. Being scared is the worst remedy. Sadly, dems fall too often in this trap.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:01 AM
Oct 2012

What I mean is that it is clear that Obama's numbers were going up on Sunday and Monday. This poll is largely done from Thursday to Saturday, (10 % of interviews on Sunday).

As for being kind to Obama, this is a bad interpretation (just as bad as saying this last poll is kind to Romney). I wish TV people got trained on polls. The Pew Poll does not weight on party affiliation. It is not necessarily a bad thing in itself, but it means it amplifies mood swings that do exist. Before the debate, Republicans were depressed and did not answer polls. In these last series of polls post debate, Democrats are depressed and do not answer polls. (Same thing for PPP who is a Democratic pollster. The difference is that PPP says so clearly, while Pew just dumps raw results with very little analysis about what it means).

I am not for "unskewing" polls. I find this ridiculous. But people have to be aware of what polls measure: a mood swing. And, in a race that is really tight (and has always been) these mood swings tend to look terrible for one side or the other.

Now, I do not say that Romney did not get a bump. He did. But these poll numbers have limited use and Democrats (and Andrew Sullivan) need to calm down and stop hyperventilating.

Here is what Scott Rasmussen ( of all people) had to say in its daily tracking comment. So, we have to stop the pity party and start working. Turnout will be key.

We have reached the point in the campaign where media reports of some polls suggest wild, short-term swings in voter preferences. That doesn’t happen in the real world. A more realistic assessment shows that the race has remained stable and very close for months. Since last week’s debate, the numbers have shifted somewhat in Romney’s direction, but even that change has been fairly modest. Still, in a close race, a modest change can have a major impact. Over the past 100 days of tracking, Romney and Obama have been within two points of each other 72 times. Additionally, on 89 of those 100 days, the candidates have been within three points of each other. See daily tracking history.

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Interesting n/t politicasista Oct 2012 #1
Not surprising. Mass Oct 2012 #5
Yep n/t politicasista Oct 2012 #6
I suspect that, while Kerry was "tough" on Obama... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #2
I bet you're exactly right Luftmensch067 Oct 2012 #3
I think you're right. Mass Oct 2012 #4
Who would? Kerry knew Romney shifts his position Relisten to Kerry's convention speech karynnj Oct 2012 #7
Nope. Sounds like he mixed it up per MBS's post downthread. beachmom Oct 2012 #19
Good to see some people are honest and do some fact checking. Mass Oct 2012 #8
I feel your pain! MBS Oct 2012 #9
I agree that the SoS /Senate race interaction is ridiculous to speak of karynnj Oct 2012 #10
This was stupid , it's clear now that Obama's Reaction was partly strategy JI7 Oct 2012 #11
I still cannot get a personal grasp Inuca Oct 2012 #12
I also was in disbelief after that debate MBS Oct 2012 #13
What drives me nuts is the fact that dems are that quick to blame Kerry. Mass Oct 2012 #14
well, at least the NYT got it right MBS Oct 2012 #15
Apparently not. With that Pew poll. beachmom Oct 2012 #17
We''ll know soon. It is impossible to know when it comes to the Pew Poll. Mass Oct 2012 #18
What do you mean by Inuca Oct 2012 #21
It's one poll. I just think freaking out over one poll is not smart. beachmom Oct 2012 #23
Being scared is the worst remedy. Sadly, dems fall too often in this trap. Mass Oct 2012 #25
I'll try to calm down :-) n/t Inuca Oct 2012 #27
Here is the Rand page website. Mass Oct 2012 #28
Thanks for the quotes MB Inuca Oct 2012 #20
Looks like JK presented Obama with every Romney version possible Blaukraut Oct 2012 #26
I think many of us were a bit with Shields, thinking that beachmom Oct 2012 #16
About your last sentence Inuca Oct 2012 #22
I enjoyed this Kevin Drum "hack gap" post: beachmom Oct 2012 #24
I agree. We are playing right into the hands of the media and appearing discouraged. wisteria Oct 2012 #29
I saw a little note from EJ DIonne Inuca Oct 2012 #30
Elections come and go. wisteria Oct 2012 #31
For those who want to see a good debate with a moderator doing its job and Mass Oct 2012 #32
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