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karynnj

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15. I think there will be a lot of pressure on him - from Democarts and Republicans in Congress,
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 06:57 PM
Mar 2013

from the industry, and from Canada to recommend this project.

He has held his cards close to his vest on this - not answering questions directly. He has spoken of a transparent process and not knowing what the study would show. He is very experienced at looking at these types of analyses and questioning the assumptions is as basic as you can get. I also hope that one very committed environmentalist is lobbying her husband pointing out that he knows what is right.

If it came down to whether it would hurt Obama if Kerry refused to approve it, I could see him approving it for all the reasons you suggest. I don't think it does because Obama can over ride any decision. I don't think, in spite of his excellent record, that Kerry approving it gives Obama any cover with environmentalists or the left. I think Obama is in a strange position on this as his recent comments on climate change really conflict with the idea of approving this. Not to mention, why throw away a valuable card for nothing.

Obama is in his second term, the question is whether - as Van Jones said he wants this to be Obama's pipeline. It is impossible to assume that in all future decades of use, it never springs a leak - devastating some part of the country. Does he want this as his legacy? Standing up and saying "no" - USING the lack of gains to the US in this report might be the best thing for him to do. The down side could be that Democrats will be hit with stopping that in 2014. That was threatened with ANWR as well - and it didn't really work. It could be that they would "punish" him by holding something else hostage - but they are already doing that with everything. In fact, if he has to do it, he likely would want to trade something big for it.

A cynical part of me could even see Kerry not approving it, giving his considerate opinion of why it is not in our interest - and Obama using overriding Kerry as a bargaining chip with the Republicans. (Note if Kerry approves it and Obama concurs, they get nothing from the Republicans in return.)

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Nooooooooooooooo!!!! Smilo Mar 2013 #1
According to Reuters this is not final ProSense Mar 2013 #2
The Clintons set it up before John Kerry took over Kolesar Mar 2013 #3
The only thing I remember Kerry saying was that he would wait until the report was issued karynnj Mar 2013 #6
since Kerry is currently Sec of State can't he do something about it ? JI7 Mar 2013 #4
Pretty sure he came into State knowing the deal was done, since it was done years ago. blm Mar 2013 #5
That is the truth! n/t wisteria Mar 2013 #7
The report went for the worst approach, the one that hurts us more than anything. Mass Mar 2013 #8
Agree completely karynnj Mar 2013 #9
The problem is that they assume the project is viable at the same scale without the pipeline. Mass Mar 2013 #10
I agree and did challenge the assumption in another post karynnj Mar 2013 #11
They don't care that they will destroy Kerry's legacy on environmental issues. Clinton's a user and blm Mar 2013 #12
Kerry does not have to approve of the project based on this report - and Obama can overrule a Kerry karynnj Mar 2013 #13
I just don't see it that way. I am certain Kerry accepted Sec of State KNOWING he'd blm Mar 2013 #14
I think there will be a lot of pressure on him - from Democarts and Republicans in Congress, karynnj Mar 2013 #15
Disagree. It would make the POTUS look weak if a member of his cabinet went a different beachmom Mar 2013 #22
Well, keystone will be the least of the problems. Mass Mar 2013 #16
It's standard ops for them. They know how to work the press to play both narratives at the same blm Mar 2013 #17
The question I have is which side leaked that she wanted to arm the Syrian rebels? karynnj Mar 2013 #18
That would be her side - she historically matches up with McCain blm Mar 2013 #21
Relatedly, this seems to be threading the needle: beachmom Mar 2013 #23
Did you see Tommy Vietor's reply to that article? beachmom Mar 2013 #24
Thanks - I did not see that or any other response to the karynnj Mar 2013 #25
There is only ONE reason someone would deliberately misstate motive - blm Mar 2013 #26
Considering the choice of Moniz as Secretary of Energy, I guess this is a done deal. Mass Mar 2013 #19
Yeah, I was depressed by the Moniz choice. n/t MBS Mar 2013 #20
Stephen Chu also indicated it was a done deal bananas Mar 2013 #27
Last August. That deal had been brokered even before that. Thanks Hillary. blm Mar 2013 #28
It was August 2011, not 2012 bananas Mar 2013 #29
Missed year, but, it coincides with what I've been posting - deal's been done for years. blm Mar 2013 #30
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