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John Kerry
In reply to the discussion: John Kerry, as always a statesman, on Israel/Palestine [View all]MBS
(9,688 posts)5. his remarks in Algiers on algeria-US relations (and Middle East and Ukraine)
http://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2014/04/224343.htm
I've given kind of a long excerpt, but, since it's public, not commercial material -- government document-- I think it's OK.
I highlighted a part in bold, which made me think, not of Arab terrorists (ostensibly the subject), but of Republicans!! I wonder if JK was thinking that, too. : )
. . . Good morning, everybody. Its nice to be here. I want to thank Foreign Minister Lamamra for his Ramtane for his very thoughtful, very wise and encouraging opening comments, a really very comprehensive statement, Ramtane, with a great deal of thought about the things that we need to cooperate on and work on. So Im particularly encouraged at the opening of this plenary session to have heard the broad prospects of increased cooperation between us. I want to thank you for your welcome here today, and particularly all the members of your team and the government for such a generous welcome. Were really appreciative.
. . .
As Ramtane said to all of you, this is a relationship that goes way, way back, and its very special for us in the United States in that regard. The present-day American city of St. Augustine, Florida was actually founded 450 years ago in honor of a man from this corner of the world, the great scholar Augustine of Hippo. And as Ramtane mentioned a few moments ago, the treaty that was signed in 1795, the Amity and Peace Treaty that brought our countries together way back then, all the way through Algerias fight for independence the United States and Algeria have worked together in support of peace and in support of self-determination.
. . .
So we come here today very sensitive to this history. We need to grow it. Theres much more that we can do. We need to trust each other. We need to build trust. And we need to think carefully about the challenges that we all face. This is a time when peace and self-determination are facing more complex threats than ever before, and its easy to say the words but it is not easy to achieve the goal. And I just want to say a word about that because it is what makes the cooperation between nations like ours so important.
. . . .
Those who offer the violence that comes with terrorism that Ramtane talked about dont offer jobs. They dont offer education. They dont offer healthcare. They dont have a program to pull the country together around its common identity. They destroy it. And they tell people, in a direct confrontation with modernity, that everybody has to do what they say and live the way they tell them. Weve been through these struggles for too long as common humanity to be cowered by that, intimidated by it, or ruled by it. And so it is absolutely vital in this Strategic Dialogue that we work to find common ground.
. . . .
There are just an enormous amount energy, as we think about the challenge of climate change in the world, as well as the challenges we see with the recent events of Ukraine energy must not be used as a weapon, as a tool of conduct in international affairs. . . .
Third, on strengthening the people-to-people ties that are critical to the success of any international partnership, we have a number of important initiatives in place today. And we hope to see even more in the future. We look forward to building on programs like those that are funded by the Middle East Partnership Initiative, aimed at strengthening civil society throughout the region, and the Fulbright student exchanges. That program here in Algeria is a very, very important one, time-honored between us. . . . .
Finally, let me just mention quickly the external events that Ramtane referred to. It is critical for the world that we find a way to resolve the crisis of Syria, and were very appreciative for the cooperative effort with Algeria and other countries of the region to do so. We also believe there is no solution other than a political solution. There is no military solution. But we also believe that because of what has happened, the nature of the weapons used, gas, chemical bombs against children, indiscriminate killing of civilians, starvation as a tool of war, more then 140,000 people killed we believe that it is impossible for Bashar al-Assad and his regime to ever regain the legitimacy to be able to govern the country. So the difficulty has been the absence of an ability to be able to change the dynamic where we can get that political solution, but we will remain committed, and we want to work with Algeria and others in order to help make that happen.
On the Middle East peace process, we remain committed. The parties met even last night and they are continuing to have their discussions. We will continue, no matter what, to try to facilitate the capacity of people to be able to make peace. But in the end, my friends, as all of you know, you can facilitate, you can push, you can nudge, but the parties themselves have to make fundamental decisions and compromises. The leaders have to lead, and they have to be able to see a moment when its there. There is an old saying, You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it drink. Nows the time to drink, and the leaders need to know that.
. .
One last thing: We will cooperate in everything except the World Cup, where our teams may have to clash. (Laughter.) Thank you. (Applause.)
I've given kind of a long excerpt, but, since it's public, not commercial material -- government document-- I think it's OK.
I highlighted a part in bold, which made me think, not of Arab terrorists (ostensibly the subject), but of Republicans!! I wonder if JK was thinking that, too. : )
. . . Good morning, everybody. Its nice to be here. I want to thank Foreign Minister Lamamra for his Ramtane for his very thoughtful, very wise and encouraging opening comments, a really very comprehensive statement, Ramtane, with a great deal of thought about the things that we need to cooperate on and work on. So Im particularly encouraged at the opening of this plenary session to have heard the broad prospects of increased cooperation between us. I want to thank you for your welcome here today, and particularly all the members of your team and the government for such a generous welcome. Were really appreciative.
. . .
As Ramtane said to all of you, this is a relationship that goes way, way back, and its very special for us in the United States in that regard. The present-day American city of St. Augustine, Florida was actually founded 450 years ago in honor of a man from this corner of the world, the great scholar Augustine of Hippo. And as Ramtane mentioned a few moments ago, the treaty that was signed in 1795, the Amity and Peace Treaty that brought our countries together way back then, all the way through Algerias fight for independence the United States and Algeria have worked together in support of peace and in support of self-determination.
. . .
So we come here today very sensitive to this history. We need to grow it. Theres much more that we can do. We need to trust each other. We need to build trust. And we need to think carefully about the challenges that we all face. This is a time when peace and self-determination are facing more complex threats than ever before, and its easy to say the words but it is not easy to achieve the goal. And I just want to say a word about that because it is what makes the cooperation between nations like ours so important.
. . . .
Those who offer the violence that comes with terrorism that Ramtane talked about dont offer jobs. They dont offer education. They dont offer healthcare. They dont have a program to pull the country together around its common identity. They destroy it. And they tell people, in a direct confrontation with modernity, that everybody has to do what they say and live the way they tell them. Weve been through these struggles for too long as common humanity to be cowered by that, intimidated by it, or ruled by it. And so it is absolutely vital in this Strategic Dialogue that we work to find common ground.
. . . .
There are just an enormous amount energy, as we think about the challenge of climate change in the world, as well as the challenges we see with the recent events of Ukraine energy must not be used as a weapon, as a tool of conduct in international affairs. . . .
Third, on strengthening the people-to-people ties that are critical to the success of any international partnership, we have a number of important initiatives in place today. And we hope to see even more in the future. We look forward to building on programs like those that are funded by the Middle East Partnership Initiative, aimed at strengthening civil society throughout the region, and the Fulbright student exchanges. That program here in Algeria is a very, very important one, time-honored between us. . . . .
Finally, let me just mention quickly the external events that Ramtane referred to. It is critical for the world that we find a way to resolve the crisis of Syria, and were very appreciative for the cooperative effort with Algeria and other countries of the region to do so. We also believe there is no solution other than a political solution. There is no military solution. But we also believe that because of what has happened, the nature of the weapons used, gas, chemical bombs against children, indiscriminate killing of civilians, starvation as a tool of war, more then 140,000 people killed we believe that it is impossible for Bashar al-Assad and his regime to ever regain the legitimacy to be able to govern the country. So the difficulty has been the absence of an ability to be able to change the dynamic where we can get that political solution, but we will remain committed, and we want to work with Algeria and others in order to help make that happen.
On the Middle East peace process, we remain committed. The parties met even last night and they are continuing to have their discussions. We will continue, no matter what, to try to facilitate the capacity of people to be able to make peace. But in the end, my friends, as all of you know, you can facilitate, you can push, you can nudge, but the parties themselves have to make fundamental decisions and compromises. The leaders have to lead, and they have to be able to see a moment when its there. There is an old saying, You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it drink. Nows the time to drink, and the leaders need to know that.
. .
One last thing: We will cooperate in everything except the World Cup, where our teams may have to clash. (Laughter.) Thank you. (Applause.)
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