John Kerry

I suspect that the article, clearly not written in the almost adoring fashion that anything about Brown is, really is more likely to define Warren as independent and principled than a "rock thrower".

I know nothing about the attack on Murray, but the attacks on Clinton and Biden are common place on DU - and justified - as long as they are put in perspective. The bankruptcy bills - that I would bet that the bank loving Brown would have voted for too - were horrendous. Clinton, Biden and Edwards voted for the 2001 version - and all deserved (and got) the criticism for it.

Biden's record on women is very mixed. He chaired the Thomas hearings and cut off testimony before many who would back Hill could speak. Yet, he also was the sponsor of the bill on violence against women. If Warren were speaking of the Thomas trial, I would hope that BIDEN agrees with her in his heart of heart.

The fact is there is something to be said in being willing to say your side is wrong - when it is. The counter, if they want to make this an issue, would be a list of unacceptable things (to MA voters) that prominent Republicans (they could just use Santorum for a long list) said or did - is Brown willing to say they are wrong?