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Fri Jun 8, 2012, 11:27 PM

Jun 2012

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Tony Porter Ted talk; A call to men. [View all] lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 OP

Thoughts? One, its really long. I only got about half through. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #1

Boring, irrelevant male bashing Cayenne Jun 2012 #2

I thought it was thought provoking. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #4

Certainly I couldn't identify with the anecdotes of his youth either. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #6

I'll always watch a recommended TED Talks. Gore1FL Jun 2012 #3

I don't agree with your last paragraph. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #5

Women can break the man box in a different way Gore1FL Jun 2012 #7

... a way of their choosing. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #8

That's sort of my point. Gore1FL Jun 2012 #9

That particular talk was given at a women's conference (TEDWoman) Catherina Jun 2012 #10

You're welcome to participate in the discussion, here, Catherina. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #11

It could be. Not being a man, it's hard for me to gauge Catherina Jun 2012 #15

So straight up, honest question, Catherina: Looking at the videos, it seems geared in large part Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #13

I wondered that too Catherina Jun 2012 #14

Anecdotally, it seems like there are some entrenched attitudes, for instance, in many AA communities Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #17

Would you agree that his point about decent men getting more involved Catherina Jun 2012 #20

Maybe the difference is, where some people see monolithic forces like culture, I see individuals. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #23

How about the young kids on the fence who don't even know they're on the fence? Catherina Jun 2012 #27

I'm unequivocally against things like violence and abuse. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #29

Yes it is a real phenomenon Catherina Jun 2012 #38

I'm trying to imagine myself into the situation you're putting out there, & drawing kind of a blank Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #39

Saved by paragraph 2 Catherina Jun 2012 #40

And I absolutely think the guy in the video whose neighbor was belting his son during a game of Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #41

I don't mind Catherina Jun 2012 #42

Hmm. Okay, my response. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #43

I appreciate your participation. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Jun 2012 #19

Texas was my big awakening about sexism Catherina Jun 2012 #21

You couldn't pay me enough Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #25

Bad answer! Catherina Jun 2012 #28

Hey, to each his or her own. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #30

I'm curious as to the actual specifics of the incident or incidents you are talking about. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Jun 2012 #26

So really, to you, this is about porn, and not so much about men being told not to express emotion. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #31

no. really it is not. it is so beyond that. but, then i am not surprised you get this. i will seabeyond Jun 2012 #32

You could work on being a little more linear, frankly. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #33

there was a lot of instances about a lot of different things. seabeyond Jun 2012 #34

Do you think that men enjoying looking at naked women is a "problem" that needs correcting? Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #35

2 and 4 yr old and 10 and 12 yr old are "men" to you? i think this would be another example of what seabeyond Jun 2012 #36

I responded to that, upthread, although frankly your anecdote was non-linear and hard to understand. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #37

Here's an example of how NOT to raise a son (or any kid) Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #12

That's terrible! Just reading the story was enough :( n/t Catherina Jun 2012 #16

Yeah. Awful. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #18

I just watched it again Catherina Jun 2012 #22