Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Men's Group
Showing Original Post only (View all)Comedic double standards [View all]
Last edited Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:31 PM - Edit history (1)
So the news of late has been pretty heavily focused on the comedian Tosh and him making rape jokes against a particular heckler in the audience.
There is a great deal of debate as to whether he should be allowed to say such things and if he should be removed from the air for "taking it too far".
In other words there are some things you just don't joke about.
Ok, I didn't really want to start another Tosh thread. My interest though was in the comparison between that story and this one:
Kind of an old video but I just saw it recently. Anyway it is a clip from The Talk featuring a number of women making repeated and unabashed jokes about a man who had his penis cut off by his deranged wife who then threw it down a disposal (meaning no chance of reattachment).
They laugh about this incident for a good 6 minutes and yet there was hardly any backlash (in fairness Sara Gilbert did have a brief moment of clarity and said this is sexist before being shut down by a joke that the audience seemed to love).
Tosh made an off color joke about a hypothetical attack. He has made the news for many days now and spawned countless debates and at least one petition to see him removed from the air.
A number of female comedians and actresses made a series of jokes about a very real attack that permanently destroyed this mans life and there was virtually no backlash. It was all just good fun.
It would seem that if rape isn't funny then neither is castration. If one is crossing a line that comedians must not cross then so is the other.
So I guess my reason for posting this is to draw attention to this double standard and see if anyone had any theories as to why it exists and what can be done about it.
InfoView thread info, including edit history
TrashPut this thread in your Trash Can (My DU » Trash Can)
BookmarkAdd this thread to your Bookmarks (My DU » Bookmarks)
45 replies, 9337 views
ShareGet links to this post and/or share on social media
AlertAlert this post for a rule violation
PowersThere are no powers you can use on this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
ReplyReply to this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
Rec (0)
ReplyReply to this post
45 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
I agree with you. Thank you. I would like to ask OP about part of the OP though.
uppityperson
Jul 2012
#19
Thank you. Rape can and often does result in permanent physical damage as well as psychological
uppityperson
Jul 2012
#24
Yeah, I'm not seeing a double standard here. I'm seeing two examples of repugnant behavior.
yardwork
Jul 2012
#20
The double standard would be in the public response to both instances
4th law of robotics
Jul 2012
#23
In that case, the overwhelming guilt is on those who are silent in the face of female oppression.
yardwork
Jul 2012
#27
That's your argument. You're saying that it's hypocritical of people to disagree with Tosh's words
yardwork
Jul 2012
#30
When did this episode of The Talk air? How do you know there wasn't a petition at the time?
yardwork
Jul 2012
#32
"Something you say when you know you're in the wrong but can't admit it it?"
4th law of robotics
Jul 2012
#37
Here's something to get outraged over. This is something we can all agree is wrong:
yardwork
Jul 2012
#38
The justification, as with Solanis, is that it is "brilliant, necessary satire"
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#4
I think the rape comments were way out of line, and I would agree, more egregious in many ways.
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#8
Maybe, but there are a lot of horrible things that happen pretty rarely.
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#11
A woman being raped by 5 guys in a comedy club is pretty rare . . .
4th law of robotics
Jul 2012
#12
But a woman being raped by 5 guys when we don't specify the location is not that rare
Squinch
Jul 2012
#16
I think, again, you're ignoring the implied or assumed acceptability of the comments
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#18
Because some women, like some men, like some people, are insensitive, or jerks, or not thinking
uppityperson
Jul 2012
#21
pretty much my feeling as well. comedy should be cutting ans sometimes offensive
loli phabay
Jul 2012
#15
"I'm certain as Tosh made the remark, this woman did not perceive the chance that five guys . . . "
4th law of robotics
Jul 2012
#35