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Bonobo

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36. No, on a societal level, it certainly is not a privilege. However, on an individual level

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 09:27 PM

Oct 2012

in terms of the power dynamics between people, it certainly seems that being the "gatekeeper" that can additionally use sex or flirting as a power tool, it gives a great advantage to women.

So while we talk about "patriarchy", we should be a little more honest and admit that we live also in a world of rich vs. poor and that poor people, whether male or female, have little power.

But we, as individuals, navigate our lives on a vastly smaller scale than that. A scale where weapons and tools play roles in individual power dynamics. In such a war, men are relatively toothless.

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Imagine you're in a mirror world and... [View all] Bonobo Oct 2012 OP

Whaddaya mean "Mirror" world? That's my life, man! Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #1

You must suck at "conversing with cops". Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #3

From the guy who thinks men not flirt women they have not been formally introduced to. Bonobo Oct 2012 #7

Good point 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #11

very true. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #16

I thought it was the "hobgoblin of small minds" Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #18

I'd suggest saltpeter instead, but its a myth. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #15

If we are talking about the same discussion, i think your memory is faulty. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #19

Yep... opiate69 Oct 2012 #21

it went way past that example but lets re-examine flirtation with strangers Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #24

4am in an elevator can be vastly different environments. opiate69 Oct 2012 #26

I was in Vegas recently 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #30

Exactly. opiate69 Oct 2012 #33

How is it I don't get it, when I explicitly said I do? Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #27

You said it wasn't flirtation 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #29

Also, an elevator is not a parking garage. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #31

Yeah he keeps changing the story 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #32

I'm curious as to your definition of flirting 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #22

On the other hand, I have never gotten "just a warning". MadrasT Oct 2012 #8

Well, I meant it when I said I'm a good driver, and careful. So it's been years since I've even been Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #14

Imagine a world where being born male white and straight gave Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #2

No, ummm, that's the regular world. What's your point, Warren? Bonobo Oct 2012 #4

I think the point is obvious. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #5

Okay, nice job. Bonobo Oct 2012 #6

D Minus? ElboRuum Oct 2012 #35

Check your privilege! 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #12

and there it is. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #17

Do you disagree with any specific point 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #20

So you think you would be better off as a black lesbian woman? Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #25

I would say that if you're comparing men to women 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #28

Given the choice between that and being a gay black man, I'd choose the former. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #34

Attractive people of both sexes have it easier. rrneck Oct 2012 #9

Of course I would. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #10

No, on a societal level, it certainly is not a privilege. However, on an individual level Bonobo Oct 2012 #36

It's human nature to use any advantage available 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #13

That's the nature of currying favor, isn't it? noamnety Oct 2012 #23

So you're saying... MadrasT Oct 2012 #37

It's simply a variation of doing a favor for someone because they are nice ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #38

Doesn't do a damn thing for me. Behind the Aegis Oct 2012 #39

Are you saying women don't wear tight clothing or brush their body parts up against men 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #40

I'd say yes on all points. Including the bleak implications of that observation. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #41