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4th law of robotics

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Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:11 AM Oct 2012

Women who killed husbands ‘rarely gave a warning,’ and most weren’t abused, study finds [View all]

Conventional wisdom suggests that women usually kill their spouses in self defence or as a final, desperate reaction to chronic battery, the burning-bed syndrome that is sometimes cited as a defence in murder trials. A new Canadian study, however, suggests that barely a quarter of husband-killers are victims of domestic abuse, less than half suffer from any identified psychological problem, and fewer still have had trouble with police.

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“We’ve got a stereoptye about domestic violence … that the oppressor or perpetrator is the male and when female violence happens, it’s a reaction against male violence,” he said. “The stereotype is so strong, that when you look at the actual data, you’re shocked.”

Prof. Dutton, author of the book Rethinking Domestic Violence, suggested that such assumptions evolved from the feminist view that family violence was a socio-political act of “patriarchal men suppressing women.” He argues instead that personality disorders in both male and female offenders better explain family violence than do social norms.


http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/10/03/women-rarely-gave-a-warning-before-killing-their-mates-and-most-didnt-suffer-abuse-study-finds/

Whenever a man kills his wife the reactions are predictable: abusive asshole, string him up!

Whenever a woman kills her husband the reactions are equally predictable: he must have been an abusive asshole, he deserved it. Self-defense!

It would seem the reality does not match the stereotypes yet again. Some match that description. But far from the majority. Certainly not enough to justify the lockstep response from so many.

/I do hope Prof. Dutton has tenure otherwise. Otherwise things could get . . . difficult for him.
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A cultural refusal to understand IPV is one of the reasons it's so prevalent. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #1
Oh yes, Dutton is a darling of the MRA set. And right-wing newspapers, too, obviously. redqueen Oct 2012 #2
Wharrgarbl!!!!!!!!!!!! opiate69 Oct 2012 #3
Apparently the definition of an MRA 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #7
Of course I do. I always do. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #4
LOL, no need for snark. redqueen Oct 2012 #5
I can't sift through the link you provided, but I will say their findings seem to fly in thr face of redqueen Oct 2012 #8
Apples, meet oranges. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #9
Now now... the NIH is obviously just an AKA for MRA. opiate69 Oct 2012 #10
LOL, there wasn't a whole lot of text at my link... redqueen Oct 2012 #11
Derp... opiate69 Oct 2012 #12
The DOJ and the NIH are coming at the problem from different angles. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #13
Thing is, the DOJ isn`t even talking about IPV. opiate69 Oct 2012 #14
True, and the NIH study is so limited... only 18-28 year olds. redqueen Oct 2012 #15
Wait a minute..... opiate69 Oct 2012 #16
"based in part" on it? redqueen Oct 2012 #17
Um.. the part where the dumbshit author cited it as some kind of source for the idiocy in the articl opiate69 Oct 2012 #19
So, one sentence? redqueen Oct 2012 #20
Ok then, strike "based in part on" and replace with "cites". opiate69 Oct 2012 #22
When studying violence, it makes sense to study the 20% of the population who experience it most. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #21
The DOJ report was based on convictions 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #24
If he had come to the opposite conclusion 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #6
How timely, black widow Melissa Ann Weeks was just arrested again. Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2012 #18
Women never murder without cause 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #23
If she had the self control to stop killing... Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2012 #25
As is I'm guessing there are still a few 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #26
No, they retreated from her pretty quickly... Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2012 #27
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