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lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts) Fri Oct 5, 2012, 07:59 PM Oct 2012

Art of Manliness: the problem with porn [View all]

Disclaimer: I don't buy all of this guy's arguments, particularly not argument #1, but I do think my life and my relationships are improved by avoiding porn.

I think it's important to list the things I'm not saying:

Screw free speech: Porn should be banned

Porn is inherently exploitive of the women paid to do it

Porn will send you to hell

I think porn often becomes a compulsion. Further, it trains our brains to see sexual attraction in a narrow range of circumstance, and I think the industry is arguably exploitive of its customers.

Essentially, I think of the porn industry in about the same way that I see the tobacco companies.

http://artofmanliness.com/2009/05/11/the-problem-with-porn/

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Art of Manliness: the problem with porn [View all] lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 OP

Okay, for starts, define "compulsion". I'm not the statistical expert, but I do think it's fairly Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #1

Fully agree regarding 1st amendment issues. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #3

Well, again, like other things I think the problem is when a recreational activity bleeds into work. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #4

You make a good point about pot. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #2

You're touching on my second problem with it. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #7

It's an unavoidable implication. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #9

A strong sex drive is part of the definition of "virile" lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #12

One problem with these arguments, such as they are, are the way they combine anecdote, Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #13

I dunno. This is a discussion board. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #14

Fair enough. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #15

I've never speculated what they "did with it" lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #16

Couple things, then I'm outty~ Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #17

Compelling argument. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #20

The rates of women using porn is up significantly Major Nikon Oct 2012 #22

I know just saying this causes some people to get apopleptic with sputtering outrage, but--- Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #23

MRA!!!!!!!!!!! opiate69 Oct 2012 #24

Evo psych heteronomative male gaze phallopressor! Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #26

I'm not so sure Major Nikon Oct 2012 #25

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #30

Interesting, to say the least. Denninmi Oct 2012 #5

I agree that if you view it as a problem then it is a problem 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #18

Well, actually, I kind of got a fresh perspective on this by reading Warren's last post Denninmi Oct 2012 #19

I don't buy any of his arguments Major Nikon Oct 2012 #21

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #27

Alerted. This is not funny, this ppr'd troll should have gotten the hint after it was hidden in GD stevenleser Oct 2012 #28

"Dutch Liberal" Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #29

There are only two kinds of people I hate . . . 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #31

Same category as Illinois Nazis? n/t Goblinmonger Oct 2012 #32

I'll say one thing about this group. WE GET THE BEST CALIBER TROLLS OF ANYWHERE ON DU, DAMMIT! Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #33

I think it would be interesting 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #34

Yeah Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #35

I have little doubt that an especially pernicious troll hifiguy Oct 2012 #36

Yes, like the mellifluous clomp clomp clomp Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #37