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4th law of robotics

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18. I agree that if you view it as a problem then it is a problem
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 10:31 AM
Oct 2012

for you.

Just like people who view sex with more than one person is their lifetime as wrong are correct. That is wrong, for them. Or sex that involves bondage or role playing or . . . if it's not right for you then fine. But it probably is right for someone else.

I don't care for many of his arguments.

1) objectification is boilerplate radfem nonsense, doesn't even deserve mocking.

2) based on his personal opinion. When condemning some sex act as wrong because it's "filthy" all you're accurately describing is your opinion on it, not some objective truth.

3) I guess there are some people who expect sex to be like porn. Mostly teenagers who have never had sex. But I don't think most people feel that way. And besides, isn't that true of a lot of things? When you see a McDonald's ad what they promise you is far from what you actually get. People are aware of that. Rom-coms, women's magazines, and romance novels portray relationships in ways that are beyond ridiculous. However I wouldn't say women need to stop enjoying such entertainment because it creates unrealistic expectations. Most people can tell fantasy from reality. Those that can't likely wouldn't be happy with reality anyway.

4) Couldn't you use the same argument to tell people not to sleep around so much? Too much sex and you won't enjoy it as much.

5) watching people have sex sucks your manly confidence? Unless that's a metaphor I'm not buying it.

If there were concrete problems that could be at least linked somewhat to porn use I'd give it some credence. Like higher rates of spousal abuse linked to porn use, something like that. But all this guy describes is his personal problems with it. I will assume those are true for him. But they don't seem accurate for most other people.

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Art of Manliness: the problem with porn [View all] lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 OP
Okay, for starts, define "compulsion". I'm not the statistical expert, but I do think it's fairly Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #1
Fully agree regarding 1st amendment issues. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #3
Well, again, like other things I think the problem is when a recreational activity bleeds into work. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #4
You make a good point about pot. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #2
You're touching on my second problem with it. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #7
It's an unavoidable implication. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #9
A strong sex drive is part of the definition of "virile" lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Oct 2012 #12
One problem with these arguments, such as they are, are the way they combine anecdote, Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #13
I dunno. This is a discussion board. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #14
Fair enough. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #15
I've never speculated what they "did with it" lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #16
Couple things, then I'm outty~ Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #17
Compelling argument. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #20
The rates of women using porn is up significantly Major Nikon Oct 2012 #22
I know just saying this causes some people to get apopleptic with sputtering outrage, but--- Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #23
MRA!!!!!!!!!!! opiate69 Oct 2012 #24
Evo psych heteronomative male gaze phallopressor! Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #26
I'm not so sure Major Nikon Oct 2012 #25
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #30
Interesting, to say the least. Denninmi Oct 2012 #5
I agree that if you view it as a problem then it is a problem 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #18
Well, actually, I kind of got a fresh perspective on this by reading Warren's last post Denninmi Oct 2012 #19
I don't buy any of his arguments Major Nikon Oct 2012 #21
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #27
Alerted. This is not funny, this ppr'd troll should have gotten the hint after it was hidden in GD stevenleser Oct 2012 #28
"Dutch Liberal" Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #29
There are only two kinds of people I hate . . . 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #31
Same category as Illinois Nazis? n/t Goblinmonger Oct 2012 #32
I'll say one thing about this group. WE GET THE BEST CALIBER TROLLS OF ANYWHERE ON DU, DAMMIT! Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #33
I think it would be interesting 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #34
Yeah Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #35
I have little doubt that an especially pernicious troll hifiguy Oct 2012 #36
Yes, like the mellifluous clomp clomp clomp Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #37
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