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caseymoz

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14. I think they don't like it . . .
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:22 AM
Oct 2012

. . . because of its implication of gender determinism, or determinism, period. However, I haven't had one radfem or feminist helpful enough to verify if that's the case.

I tried to say that sociobiology implies no such thing. That a biologist doesn't see genetics as determining outcomes at all, if anything, they see genes providing possibilities.

Though I have to admit, they may be suspicious as male scientists tell them certain facts, theories and hypotheses. They may think the data has been cooked to undercut feminism. In presuming the data is corrupt, they then throw it out and make their own guess. And wouldn't you know, they base their guesses on social science, a category of academia known for it's reliable data and unbiased researchers, all of whom in no way want to prove their own theories and launch social movements based on them.


Until you actually get more female scientists into the sociobiology or psycho-biology fields, you're not going to settle this. Not when distrust is running so high.

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Because it's madness- sheer madness!- to suggest there may be evolutionary or biological drivers in Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #1
Gah! rrneck Oct 2012 #5
It does seem to be... opiate69 Oct 2012 #6
Yeah.. Upton Oct 2012 #7
The woo spewed against evolutionary psych is insane hifiguy Oct 2012 #15
"The one core fact about science and the scientific method . . . " 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #25
You might say that. hifiguy Oct 2012 #28
*groan* iuzyp Oct 2012 #2
"chock up"? Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #3
*snork*!!! Oh, and... Hi again, iverglas! opiate69 Oct 2012 #4
You can't win, Darth Major Nikon Oct 2012 #10
More like this: Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #11
Same thing Major Nikon Oct 2012 #12
Another one bites the dust: hifiguy Oct 2012 #16
Can't tell if that rant is real or parody. caseymoz Oct 2012 #13
Fundamentalists of all stripes reject science 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #8
Too true, 4thLaw.. too true opiate69 Oct 2012 #9
I think they don't like it . . . caseymoz Oct 2012 #14
evo psych (sociobiology) is mostly bullshit Mosby Oct 2012 #17
Oh, well.... Mosby sez so, so it must be trufax!!! opiate69 Oct 2012 #18
some links Mosby Oct 2012 #19
Hmm... ok.. opiate69 Oct 2012 #20
Yeah. I know for a fucking FACT that alcoholism has a genetic and physiological component. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #24
Why am I not surprised that an ax-grinder is at the base of this? hifiguy Oct 2012 #29
Are you suggesting that men don't have the capacity to understand it? lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #21
I'm posting from my phone Mosby Oct 2012 #22
There's plenty of social science concepts which can't be effectively tested Major Nikon Oct 2012 #23
Many disciplines can't be based on experimentation 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #27
some things are very hard or nearly impossibe to test Mosby Oct 2012 #30
I think you are grievously misunderstanding what evo-psych 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #35
I think it's safe to agree that psychology, evolutionary or otherwise, is a soft science. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #31
Well said, jeff. hifiguy Oct 2012 #32
psychology does cover a lot of ground these days Mosby Oct 2012 #33
I think the analogies between psychology and environmental science are apt. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #34
The genetic component would be neuro-science 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #36
Claim: evo-psych is bullshit 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #26
This is the stuff that makes people think it's okay to cover up or apologize for child abusers, huh? Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #37
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