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In reply to the discussion: My statement on Feminism [View all]

Behind the Aegis

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15. Hello! You have made a big impression on a number of people.
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:51 AM
Dec 2012

I am glad you also pointed out unfairness toward men. Sadly, some here treat it like a joke or that we are supposed to "man up" and don't see the irony in that statement.

I am very sorry to hear of your experiences in the Army. I wish you had known my father. He was in the Army and as an EEO at one assignment, and worked similar jobs at other bases. I also know, though I wasn't supposed to at the time (I was eavesdropping), he was part of the reason two men were drummed out of the military and took a trip to Kansas. They were rapists and were looking for the military's "Good Ole Boy" network. "Sadly", at least for them, they ended up under my father's watch. I won't say they didn't have a fair chance, because my father is very fair, but let's say the winds of fortune weren't even blowing when my father entered the picture. I wanted to share that because I want you to know there are some men who will and do the right thing (I know you know this, but I wanted a real world example). He actually got a sexual harassment course geared toward those just entering the base for training which was required. My mom had a little to do with that...shhh..that's a secret.

I think shared experiences make it more real for a number of people, even if it is just in an on-line forum such as this. There are those who never get it unless it happens to someone they love; fewer still are those that the example has to happen to them; then there are the misanthropes, and they really don't care who it happens to, including themselves. But I feel, the biggest majority of people, are sympathetic, and every now and again along come the empaths, who take you experience, make it a shared experience and pass on the lesson to others.

I have no idea if anything I said make in sense to anyone other than myself. I hope it did. I think I need a shower to wash off this very nasty, negative, hateful day.

Glad you are here! And even more glad you shared!

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My statement on Feminism [View all] Major Nikon Dec 2012 OP
I believe in equality for men and women too. There are a lot of problems in society and men and LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #1
I agree. I think we are experiencing a dislocation much like he transition from agrarian to Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #4
I believe in equality like I believe in disneyland. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #2
I think the beginnings of the 2nd wave got it right Major Nikon Dec 2012 #3
They are my heroes too! I heard Coretta Scott King speak for the first time after her husband's LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #6
To me, feminism means equality, too. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #5
That's really cool! LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #7
I hope you caught my reply to you in meta. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #9
Wow, thank you, I haven't seen it yet, I will go look! I made bread today instead of LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #10
That is TOTALLY where I'm at. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #11
:) LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #12
I just don't see much divergence with the feminists cause Major Nikon Dec 2012 #13
P.S. I've seen examples of unfairness towards men. LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #8
Thank you for your service. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #14
Thank you so much. I'm hoping we can all work together and build a better world LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #16
Hello! You have made a big impression on a number of people. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #15
Thank you so much for sharing this! Your father was a real hero, I am proud to have served in the LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #17
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