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In reply to the discussion: My statement on Feminism [View all]

LiberalLoner

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16. Thank you so much. I'm hoping we can all work together and build a better world
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 10:27 AM
Dec 2012

for all of us! I love your username because my Grandpa was a lumberjack, in NW Montana. He even won the lumberjack contest in Montana once, he was the best lumberjack in Montana! I remember watching him chop wood when I was a kid and he made it look so effortless, every strike of the axe sure and splitting the wood into perfect kindling for the wood stoves they had at the farm to burn for heat. Are you a real lumberjack? My Grandpa had heart attacks when he turned 40 and then he wasn't able to do that work anymore.

All the BS just kind of made me laugh because I thought, well, I was trying to take steps to make the world better, I was trying to do what I thought was right and people just got mad at me for it. I kept thinking, well, heck, I don't know what to do.

That's another thing I think is hard on men. The roles are changing so fast, no matter what you do, some people are going to say you are doing it wrong and be mad at you. I'm thinking both men and women are getting kind of beaten up, and sometimes men beat up other men and women beat up women too over all this. Boy you should see some message boards that are just about all women, the wars we have over whether it's okay to be a stay-at-home mom or a working mom would blow your mind. I've seen guys do it a little bit too, my father (who is an alcoholic with a lot of problems and a real mean streak because of the demons he's fighting inside) used to treat my BIL with real derision because he didn't earn a lot of money. But my BIL was such a gentle man, and a wonderful father, and a proud Democrat (my father is hard right) and he could grow anything you'd want to grow because he grew up on a farm, and I always admired him and thought he was a better man than my father.

Sorry to go on and on. I have a bad habit of being too chatty sometimes.

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My statement on Feminism [View all] Major Nikon Dec 2012 OP
I believe in equality for men and women too. There are a lot of problems in society and men and LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #1
I agree. I think we are experiencing a dislocation much like he transition from agrarian to Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #4
I believe in equality like I believe in disneyland. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #2
I think the beginnings of the 2nd wave got it right Major Nikon Dec 2012 #3
They are my heroes too! I heard Coretta Scott King speak for the first time after her husband's LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #6
To me, feminism means equality, too. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #5
That's really cool! LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #7
I hope you caught my reply to you in meta. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #9
Wow, thank you, I haven't seen it yet, I will go look! I made bread today instead of LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #10
That is TOTALLY where I'm at. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #11
:) LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #12
I just don't see much divergence with the feminists cause Major Nikon Dec 2012 #13
P.S. I've seen examples of unfairness towards men. LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #8
Thank you for your service. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #14
Thank you so much. I'm hoping we can all work together and build a better world LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #16
Hello! You have made a big impression on a number of people. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #15
Thank you so much for sharing this! Your father was a real hero, I am proud to have served in the LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #17
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