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Major Nikon

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12. I think a lot of it has to do with how you frame your assertions

Reply to Bonobo (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:05 PM

Dec 2012

"Men need to be educated on not raping" can easily be replaced with "everyone needs more information on what consent really means."

I think the definition of legal consent should be taught in sex education classes in schools and should be mandatory for everyone. Someone might construe that into educating males on "not raping", but I see it more as educating everyone on what the law states. People can make their own decisions from there.

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I think I see the cause of the anger/miscommunication [View all] Bonobo Dec 2012 OP

I think it's more ethics delivered as a rrneck Dec 2012 #1

I have a different conclusion Gore1FL Dec 2012 #2

The irony is that this pandering infantilizing condescension is exactly the desired reaction. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #6

This was alerted on, by the way. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #7

Thanks! Gore1FL Dec 2012 #8

Well, that's just it, and I think that was all that was being questioned. ElboRuum Dec 2012 #3

I tend to stay away from the topic for the most part Major Nikon Dec 2012 #4

I think you're right. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #5

I think self-defense is ALWAYS a good idea. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #10

Like I said in the other thread, there's always room to be more empathic. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #9

Good point, but... TreasonousBastard Dec 2012 #11

This ^^ nt Gore1FL Dec 2012 #13

I think a lot of it has to do with how you frame your assertions Major Nikon Dec 2012 #12

When I pointed that out Gore1FL Dec 2012 #14

We get a lot of alerts here Major Nikon Dec 2012 #15

I like this idea/framing quite a lot. n/t MadrasT Dec 2012 #16

I do too and it seems sort of an obvious point to make. Bonobo Dec 2012 #17

I agree... but what sounds great in concept often runs into problems at the practical level. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #18

Unfortunately I don't know of a great way to have that conversation here Major Nikon Dec 2012 #19

Certainly your approach is better than knee-jerk tribalism. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #20

What consent really means libodem Dec 2012 #21