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lumberjack_jeff

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15. I don't even think "traditional" is an operative word.

Reply to Warren DeMontague (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:32 PM

Feb 2013

Jonas Salk was the product of a "traditional patriarchal culture". How many "Jonas'" are out there today, but fail to achieve because they learned by age four that they weren't smart like the girls.

As you've noted, "patriarchy" appears to swing every which-way, depending on the desired point to be made.

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Negative stereotypes about boys hinder their academic achievement [View all] DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 OP

Yep. This is one of the reasons patriarchy sucks. ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #1

I don't see how the stereotype that boys are inferior is attributable to patriarchy. DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #2

A large part of patriarchy is assigned gender roles. ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #3

So basically "patriarchy" is a catch-all label to describe anything you don't like. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #5

I have said nothing of the sort, but feel free to believe whatever you can ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #7

And yet, when it was widely assumed that girls were academically inferior, that was "patriarchy",too Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #8

If patriarchy was a "nefarious penis conspiracy," ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #9

If one wants to say "traditional gender roles", one can just say that. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #10

Hmmm... ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #11

Everyone should be get at least a cursory grounding in Korzybyski & General Semantics, IMHO Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #13

I don't even think "traditional" is an operative word. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #15

Nefarious Penis Conspiracy opened for The Reverand Horton Heat at the Paradise in Boston in '93 ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #12

Yes, but the flyers around town were epic. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #14

while assuring them that girls and boys are equally academic may help them achieve. seabeyond Feb 2013 #4

I think all kids are different, and respond to different stuff. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #6