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Warren DeMontague

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17. It's mental illness, obviously.

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 03:23 PM

Feb 2013

Sort of like the mental illness which Dworkin had, finally leading to her belief that she was being chased across Europe by giant invisible phantom penises, before she died.... to the point at which even some of her most erstwhile, lifelong "allies" acknowledged, among themselves, "yeah, she's gone nuts", although they blamed exhaustion and the ever present and all-purpose blameatron, "The Patriarchy"... Apparently reviewing her lifetime of inane gibberings, going back decades, equating sex to rape and calling for the abolishment of erections, um, that would have been too much.

She was nuts like Solanas was nuts; so any "movement" that holds up clearly insane people as their "visionary leaders"... well, do the math.

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Is hating men THIS MUCH healthy? [View all] Bonobo Feb 2013 OP

He, he, he! "IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" WTF! Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #1

What I don't get it how THAT is not a "hate group"/"Hate site" Bonobo Feb 2013 #2

I don't know that is a group, though I see the "circle." Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #3

Well to the same extent that the "MRA" is defined as a group. Bonobo Feb 2013 #4

I completely understand what you are saying. Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #5

Yeah, these links. Bonobo Feb 2013 #6

WHAT THE HOLY FUCK IS WRONG WITH THAT ASSHOLE?! Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #7

Yup. And the "mindset" behind it has to be seriously questioned. Bonobo Feb 2013 #8

It's mental illness, obviously. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #17

Yeah. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #15

I had to go look that one up LadyHawkAZ Feb 2013 #20

Thanks for clarifying. The details on that particular story have been telephoned, for sure- Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #23

Atrocious indeed. LadyHawkAZ Feb 2013 #24

This is telling ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #11

Can someone explain the basis of the radfem rage against LGBT people? MicaelS Feb 2013 #9

From what I parsed.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #10

Yeah, sure. Here it is, essentially: Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #14

I feel fortunate that the Women I know in real life are sane. n/t Gore1FL Feb 2013 #38

As best I recall from university there are two "issues" Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2013 #58

In answer to your question about whether or not there are men who hate Chas Bono as much as yardwork Feb 2013 #12

I think it's a particular obsession with this crowd. I don't hang around on FR much, but I suspect Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #13

Yes, there are a group of feminists who get unhinged about trans people, for reasons outlined here. yardwork Feb 2013 #18

The challenge is separating one from the other. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #19

Nonsense. I don't know a single feminist in real life who would have anything to do with this. yardwork Feb 2013 #25

Most *actual* feminists I know in real life are completely pro LGBT rights, for instance. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #27

That is correct. yardwork Feb 2013 #28

Nah, I suspect most disgruntled kooks are genuine. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #29

Good point. Either way they are not representative. yardwork Feb 2013 #30

You are spot on, there. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #31

It's either extremely irrational or a false flag designed to divide progressives. yardwork Feb 2013 #32

I just don't think it's big or influential enough to be a false flag. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #33

Very good points. I had never heard of this "radfem" movement either and I'm old as dirt. yardwork Feb 2013 #34

I had a friend who attended Smith College in the 80s. For about a year or two we couldn't converse Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #39

So then why do some here on DU lay claim to the title "rad fem". Isn't it the "radicalism" Bonobo Feb 2013 #35

Don't ask me. I have no idea what they're talking about. yardwork Feb 2013 #36

I should not have phrased it as a question. Bonobo Feb 2013 #37

The assumption that I am "less angry" might be incorrect. yardwork Feb 2013 #42

I guess my question is, what are the specific things you are angry about? Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #53

I think the ONLY people who assert that "radfemhub" represents all "real" Feminists is radfemhub Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #22

Exactly, as the folks at your link point out. yardwork Feb 2013 #26

A fraction, yes Major Nikon Feb 2013 #40

If you think that 20 people is a large percentage of 3.4 billion women I don't know what to say. yardwork Feb 2013 #41

Not sure where you're getting those numbers Major Nikon Feb 2013 #43

I personally think it's maybe a small elevator or broom closet full of people, max Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #44

Sheila Jeffreys alone commands a worldwide audience Major Nikon Feb 2013 #45

How many of these people are there? yardwork Feb 2013 #47

It's not a contest. Hate is hate, and it should all be roundly condemned. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #48

It's a fair question. If I'm going to be browbeaten because "lots of" feminists say hateful things yardwork Feb 2013 #50

I don't believe lots of feminists say hateful things about men, personally. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #52

I'm not really down with the idea that hate can justify hate Major Nikon Feb 2013 #49

Eh, I'm not seeing it. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #51

I have no doubt their population is waning Major Nikon Feb 2013 #54

Part of it is, I think the mainstream "Feminist Community" doesn't give a shit about the extremists. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #55

To her credit, Dworkin was on the right side of this one Major Nikon Feb 2013 #56

Here is the "rationalwiki" article on radfemhub: Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #16

Yikes! Denninmi Feb 2013 #21

Does it matter? Denninmi Feb 2013 #46

I think it does. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #57

What a bigoted asshole. Dash87 Feb 2013 #59