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LadyHawkAZ

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13. Nothing's ever universal; there's always going to be exceptions
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 07:41 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Mon Mar 18, 2013, 09:03 PM - Edit history (1)

For the most part, though, those willing to give up a privileged position fall into two categories: the opportunists, who are looking to obtain a different type of privilege for themselves and are willing to sacrifice the current one for it, and the visionaries, who can see the bigger picture and the new, different ways a more balanced society will benefit both themselves and the people they care about. Everyone's looking for a way to benefit, that's a survival instinct that's hardwired into us, but the definition of "benefit" varies widely between different people and different groups. So does the definition of "people they care about"; that can be anything from immediate family to the entire world population. The big problem of social change is getting the non-visionary, more egocentric types to give up what they have for a newly proposed social structure, when they aren't able to see a benefit to themselves. It scares people. The wingnuts in this country, for example, know that, and will push the fear of SCARY BLACK MEN! or BABY KILLERS! or GAY PEOPLE! as hard as they can, to slow that change down.

The change and progress in the move toward social equality, just in the past century or so, has been phenomenal. It's the only reason my natural cynicism hasn't collapsed into absolute misanthropy- obviously there is a thin thread of unifying force somewhere in the fucked-up mess that is humanity, in spite of the fact that we ignore it so often or try to beat it to death when we see it. I suspect that a couple of generations down the road, we will see racial, gender and orientation issues become mostly non-issues, IF we can keep on message and don't let the wingnuts or extremists frame the debate. There's hope.

ETA: after viewing yet another porn thread full of yet more true benevolent sexism- women can't choose sex ever, you know- I think I should have gone for the misanthropy. Maybe there's less hope than I thought.

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in the war catagorie also "men start wars"- the men who were voted in by the majority female voter leftyohiolib Mar 2013 #1
File this under "shit you didn't learn in school" lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #3
only if there were exactly the same number of men as women but that's not the case leftyohiolib Mar 2013 #4
I used to see men as being favored over women... fadedrose Mar 2013 #2
i dont blame wymyn, and i think that any blame like "it's all the woman's fault" is too simplistic leftyohiolib Mar 2013 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Dash87 Mar 2013 #18
"AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service" ... You are not alone! In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #5
Thanks! Bonobo Mar 2013 #6
Bonobo. I look to find the best in everyone. If I want the dark side it is also there. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #11
Seems there's some tourists about theKed Mar 2013 #7
I think it's interesting that both of the ones who would hide it... lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #8
Is that called "womansplaining?" when they do that? Gore1FL Mar 2013 #14
why don't you tell everyone why? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #15
Ahhh! You are mansplaining to me about mansplaining womansplaining. Gore1FL Mar 2013 #16
Boss!! opiate69 Mar 2013 #17
They missed the huge, glaring category of sexuality/sexual expression LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #10
I don't know if that's a universal truth: I think people- not all people, all the time, but many- Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #12
Nothing's ever universal; there's always going to be exceptions LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #13
Women can't hear what men don't say. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #19
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