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Bonobo

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3. I don't categorically deny this...

Sun May 12, 2013, 12:58 AM

May 2013

And yet homophobia against lesbians seems to contradict this.

Of course, you could counter that male homophobes resent women who act "butch" because it threatens to subvert the power claimed by the Patriarchy, but that is akin to having your cake and eating it too.

Even among homophobic men, there exists an attitude of respect, even reverence, for the feminine. How then can the feminine aspect manifested in men be the reason for homophobia?

Similarly, if masculine attributes are as revered as this suggests, why then the homophobia towards lesbians?

If one is inclined to win the argument at any costs, no matter how many logical pretzels one creates in the process, one could claim that it is the Patriarchy defending itself against any challengers. But that to me is the work of someone with an unalterably preconceived viewpoint that is determined to blame men for everything.

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Apparently even homophobia is "all about womyn". [View all] Bonobo May 2013 OP

You are correct that the causes are complex, but... Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #1

I don't categorically deny this... Bonobo May 2013 #3

Complicated and ambiguous stuff. But... Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #11

This is an area in which I have great knowledge. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #2

Thank you. Here is a subject I find interesting and would like to know more about... Bonobo May 2013 #4

You ask a really interesting question. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #5

That is the best answer I have seen. Bonobo May 2013 #6

Stereotypes are such tricky things. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #8

I think your last paragraph is really tragic. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #12

I guess it can be sad. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #21

I am sorry for what you've been through, friend. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #28

This makes me sad. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #18

See my response to luberjack_jeff for more info. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #23

For want of an "m", a serious point was lost. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #26

The good news is, you've got a new nickname! Warren DeMontague May 2013 #27

Only good news if I decide to change careers. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #29

"Slippery Pistons" Warren DeMontague May 2013 #30

LMFGAO!!! Behind the Aegis May 2013 #31

It took me a good day and a half before I saw it, too. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #32

Homophobia pisses me off more than other bigotries Major Nikon May 2013 #20

There is much truth to what you say. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #24

I can believe it Major Nikon May 2013 #25

The key word you used is "some" Major Nikon May 2013 #15

I completely agree. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #22

Another related issue... Bonobo May 2013 #7

Other cultures can expose flaws in our own. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #9

That's not limited to far eastern cultures Major Nikon May 2013 #16

I'm glad you posted this. There's a lot to ruminate, so I'll probably come back to it. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #10

Food for thought indeed. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #13

The belief that Jadin Bell died because of misogyny is really offensive. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #14

Doesn't seem to be limited to just homosexuality Major Nikon May 2013 #17

Who sits around thinking about this? Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2013 #19