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Bonobo

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7. Another related issue...
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:43 AM
May 2013

I live in Japan, as you know.

One of the things that I love about it is that boys and men touch each other a lot more than in the US.

It also makes me sad because it is so hard for me. It makes me self-conscious and uncomfortable even though I want to be able to share this form of closeness.

It really surprised me, but it is so beautiful. To see 14 year old boys, friends, sit un-selfconsciously with ones head leaning against a friend's shoulder... For a man to hug you from behind to show affection... As an American man, it really made me feel how much we are missing and how victimized we are by society's shackles.

Women talk about their shackles and yes, I know they exist. But it seems to me that in many ways they are more free. Free to dress in dress or pants, free to wear makeup or not, free to wait to be approached by a man or to make the moves herself, free to find a career or (more likely than a man anyway) to try to find a partner to support her, free to devote herself to her children -or not, free to show emotions without being reproached, etc.

I am sure their answer would be that it is the Patriarchy setting the rules and therefore "you did it to yourself"...sort of blaming the victim if you ask me.

Anyway, I see this as strongly related to male homophobia.

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You are correct that the causes are complex, but... Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #1
I don't categorically deny this... Bonobo May 2013 #3
Complicated and ambiguous stuff. But... Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #11
This is an area in which I have great knowledge. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #2
Thank you. Here is a subject I find interesting and would like to know more about... Bonobo May 2013 #4
You ask a really interesting question. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #5
That is the best answer I have seen. Bonobo May 2013 #6
Stereotypes are such tricky things. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #8
I think your last paragraph is really tragic. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #12
I guess it can be sad. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #21
I am sorry for what you've been through, friend. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #28
This makes me sad. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #18
See my response to luberjack_jeff for more info. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #23
For want of an "m", a serious point was lost. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #26
The good news is, you've got a new nickname! Warren DeMontague May 2013 #27
Only good news if I decide to change careers. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #29
"Slippery Pistons" Warren DeMontague May 2013 #30
LMFGAO!!! Behind the Aegis May 2013 #31
It took me a good day and a half before I saw it, too. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #32
Homophobia pisses me off more than other bigotries Major Nikon May 2013 #20
There is much truth to what you say. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #24
I can believe it Major Nikon May 2013 #25
The key word you used is "some" Major Nikon May 2013 #15
I completely agree. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #22
Another related issue... Bonobo May 2013 #7
Other cultures can expose flaws in our own. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #9
That's not limited to far eastern cultures Major Nikon May 2013 #16
I'm glad you posted this. There's a lot to ruminate, so I'll probably come back to it. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #10
Food for thought indeed. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #13
The belief that Jadin Bell died because of misogyny is really offensive. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #14
Doesn't seem to be limited to just homosexuality Major Nikon May 2013 #17
Who sits around thinking about this? Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2013 #19
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