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Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
18. This makes me sad.
Sun May 12, 2013, 04:44 PM
May 2013

Not the part about not liking kids; I mean, in that case it's no great loss- but the societal stuff around abuse and those abhorrent stereotypes about gay men.

I've written a bit about looking at that stuff from the other angle; i.e. that of a parent who is obviously wary about ANY excessive "interest" in my kids that could indicate something bad. And yes, absolutely, men are looked at far more skeptically than women- even by me, and I'm a man... but certainly not, in my case at least, Gay men more than Hetero ones. It's more ALL men, and one can talk it into the ground, it's still there.

But the fact is, kids' lives these days are often so programmed, it's pretty unlikely that one would just casually find themselves in a situation with someone else's kids that might even lead to raised eyebrows. Usually in most coach or mentor situations you are with a whole bunch of people- most parents aren't, like, "here, random adult, take my kids off all by yourself" ...obviously, if you're the babysitter, it's a different story.

And again, I think some of the social stuff you get- unfortunately- is tied to where you are in the Country. I just don't think the blue areas of the West Coast are nearly as backwards-ass as some places in this country can be around this stuff.

Of course, at the end of the day (Hi, Bonobo! ) if you don't WANT to be around kids or have that role model or mentoring interaction, that's cool- it's not for everyone, and frankly if I weren't a parent probably the last thing I would be doing is spending large amounts of time around little kids (if I never hear that damn Raffi CD again, it will be too soon) ... but like I said, it makes me sad that there is this wariness specifically tied to these horribly bigoted and awful stereotypes.

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You are correct that the causes are complex, but... Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #1
I don't categorically deny this... Bonobo May 2013 #3
Complicated and ambiguous stuff. But... Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #11
This is an area in which I have great knowledge. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #2
Thank you. Here is a subject I find interesting and would like to know more about... Bonobo May 2013 #4
You ask a really interesting question. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #5
That is the best answer I have seen. Bonobo May 2013 #6
Stereotypes are such tricky things. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #8
I think your last paragraph is really tragic. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #12
I guess it can be sad. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #21
I am sorry for what you've been through, friend. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #28
This makes me sad. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #18
See my response to luberjack_jeff for more info. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #23
For want of an "m", a serious point was lost. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #26
The good news is, you've got a new nickname! Warren DeMontague May 2013 #27
Only good news if I decide to change careers. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #29
"Slippery Pistons" Warren DeMontague May 2013 #30
LMFGAO!!! Behind the Aegis May 2013 #31
It took me a good day and a half before I saw it, too. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #32
Homophobia pisses me off more than other bigotries Major Nikon May 2013 #20
There is much truth to what you say. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #24
I can believe it Major Nikon May 2013 #25
The key word you used is "some" Major Nikon May 2013 #15
I completely agree. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #22
Another related issue... Bonobo May 2013 #7
Other cultures can expose flaws in our own. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #9
That's not limited to far eastern cultures Major Nikon May 2013 #16
I'm glad you posted this. There's a lot to ruminate, so I'll probably come back to it. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #10
Food for thought indeed. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #13
The belief that Jadin Bell died because of misogyny is really offensive. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #14
Doesn't seem to be limited to just homosexuality Major Nikon May 2013 #17
Who sits around thinking about this? Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2013 #19
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