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Gore1FL

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70. That's not the issue

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:04 AM

May 2013

I am not sure that a sliver-of-truth wrapped fallacy and served in a flamebait gravy over a bed of unspecificity really requires or deserves a focus on the sliver-of-truth part of it. It's not our job to sift through a pile of feces to find what might be edible.

If I posted a graphic that read:

"2+2=4
Jews are bad for themselves.
Christians know what's better for Jews."

and I provided no further commentary, in the original post, and only followed it up with platitudes, would you take the time to defend the 2+2=4 part and express disbelief that no one could "manage to agree that there just might be some truth in that"?

The purpose of the graphic was not to provide deep introspection, but to be divisive.

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Men are capable of better [View all] Taverner May 2013 OP

I guess we should be thankful rrneck May 2013 #1

Missed. Point. Completely. Taverner May 2013 #2

*What* is asking? Some bumper-sticker blurb someone did in photoshop? Warren DeMontague May 2013 #4

By that logic any sentence could be reduced - reducto ad absurdum Taverner May 2013 #5

And so do I. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #7

Since day one? Do you mean historically or in modern times. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #12

Ah, so.... opiate69 May 2013 #8

If I see this Pat R. Iarchy guy, I'll tell him what the fuck for. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #9

I heard he was Keyser Söze's cousin! opiate69 May 2013 #10

You only say that because you're known to be one of the Warren DeMontague May 2013 #11

Verbal Kint, at yout service. opiate69 May 2013 #14

I'm glad to see Kevin Spacey getting back to playing dark and immoral. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #15

Dammit... I need to remember to reinstate my Netflix acct.. opiate69 May 2013 #16

Yeah, streaming alone is only like 8 bucks a month or something. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #17

Yeah.. we used to have Netflix and Hulu... opiate69 May 2013 #18

It's well worth watching Major Nikon May 2013 #26

How am I the product of some other man's idea of what I should be? Gore1FL May 2013 #13

Easily. You bought that man's bullshit Taverner May 2013 #19

And you don't see anything presumptuous about that statement? Warren DeMontague May 2013 #20

Whoa dude.. I think I better dig out the old bong for this... opiate69 May 2013 #24

No need. I'm fairly stoned & it's a mystery to me. Inkfreak May 2013 #33

Let's talk then. Tell me everything you have a problem with. Taverner May 2013 #35

I have a distinct problem... ElboRuum May 2013 #37

I am more than happy to bring out a bong, provide the material... Taverner May 2013 #34

OK: You take a hit and I say "The thing is, it's Floozflatz that gives you the bunions on your feet! Warren DeMontague May 2013 #62

What man? Gore1FL May 2013 #39

So please tell us what the point is exactly Major Nikon May 2013 #41

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #45

How would you feel if the graphic said rrneck May 2013 #47

Give that man a kewpie doll! Behind the Aegis May 2013 #48

Does "Patriarchy" have a radio station? Is there a mailing address for "Feminism"? Warren DeMontague May 2013 #3

ill define the men around me and my own gender role without galileoreloaded May 2013 #6

What a bunch of garbage.. Upton May 2013 #21

Fine. Make no point to change Taverner May 2013 #22

Change to what? Upton May 2013 #23

You're obviously some knuckle dragging troglodyte who needs to be dragged into the 21st century Warren DeMontague May 2013 #60

I guess I'm just a "man-brute" .. Upton May 2013 #68

I change when I get new information Gore1FL May 2013 #40

You hacked into my netcam, didn't you. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #59

Change? ElboRuum May 2013 #67

I see this went about as expected. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #25

As expected? opiate69 May 2013 #27

wow and paranoid too. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #28

Seriously - at this point in history... Taverner May 2013 #29

Obviously, there is Gore1FL May 2013 #42

It goes beyond you Taverner May 2013 #43

I break it down every day when I don't participate in the behaviors described. Gore1FL May 2013 #49

That's an excellent suggestion and in fact Bonobo May 2013 #55

"don't think there is a concerted war on women".... Did someone actually say that? Warren DeMontague May 2013 #57

So you've enlisted in the fight by lobbing a grenade into the men's group... Major Nikon May 2013 #63

no i don't think you and i got together and plotted your op. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #65

There are a whole host of implied assumptions behind the OP and the thread. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #61

the responses to the op are a sorry mess of denial and defensive poutrage. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #66

Actually many of the regulars here have written lengthy posts on what you think we can't agree on Major Nikon May 2013 #69

That's not the issue Gore1FL May 2013 #70

Certainly patriarchy is harmful. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #73

this post illicits quite a bit of respect from me to you. galileoreloaded May 2013 #78

You have to explain the op by putting in stuff that isn't there- isn't that a red flag? Warren DeMontague May 2013 #74

Gee, they are just trying to make you better Major Nikon May 2013 #75

Just a couple members of the collective guilt crowd.. Upton May 2013 #31

Warren. Bonobo May 2013 #54

Meh. Reads like a shitty bumper sticker. n/t Inkfreak May 2013 #30

PM me if you want to go deeper n/t Taverner May 2013 #32

I don't understand why you want to take this offline... ElboRuum May 2013 #38

It does seem strange to make an OP Bonobo May 2013 #56

Implication... ElboRuum May 2013 #64

And rather pathetically, the other attack dog Bonobo May 2013 #71

Internet memes are the modern form of shitty bumper stickers Major Nikon May 2013 #76

The one in my sig is funny Warren DeMontague May 2013 #77

"Patriarchy" cannot say anything. Bonobo May 2013 #36

Definitions; Ideally they should have some relationship to the thing they're referring to. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #44

Is there anything the patriarchy can't be blamed for? Hayabusa May 2013 #46

I blame the patriarchy for the patriarchy. n/t Gore1FL May 2013 #50

We are all capable of better! hrmjustin May 2013 #51

Amen - my friend Taverner May 2013 #52

. hrmjustin May 2013 #53

A good place to start would be defining our terms and being transparent about our motives. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #58

Problem is: Feminism is only about women, not helping men. HuskiesHowls May 2013 #72

I disagree that feminism is "only about [helping] women." nomorenomore08 May 2013 #79

I understand what you're saying. But I also understand some of the responses. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #80

This is true Taverner May 2013 #81