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In reply to the discussion: I am retired and 73 years old, where can you park [View all]progree
(11,516 posts)27. Odd the EE savings bonds suck so much (these are the ones without the inflation adjust)
Last edited Fri May 21, 2021, 12:13 PM - Edit history (2)
I found this on EE savings bonds:
If I buy an EE bond now, what interest will it earn? The interest rate for a bond bought from May 2021 through October 2021 is an annual rate of 0.10%. Regardless of the rate, at 20 years the bond will be worth twice what you pay for it. If you keep the bond that long, we make a one-time adjustment then to fulfill this guarantee. Learn more on Interest Rates Current and Past
MAXIMUM PURCHASE: $10,000 each calendar year for each Social Security Number.
MORE: https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/ebonds/res_e_bonds_eeratesandterms_eebondsissued052005andafer.htm
MAXIMUM PURCHASE: $10,000 each calendar year for each Social Security Number.
MORE: https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/ebonds/res_e_bonds_eeratesandterms_eebondsissued052005andafer.htm
So two very big bummers: 0.10% interest rate unless you hold it for 20 years. Then yes, it guarantees that one will get double back, which works out to a 3.526% annualized rate of return. Otherwise, peanuts.
1.03526^20 = 2.0 (a doubling over 20 years)
And then one is limited to purchasing $10,000/year, so somebody looking to invest a reasonable retirement nest egg will have to look elsewhere (according to Fidelity, a 65 year old couple can expect to pay an average of $300,000 out of pocket over their lifetimes, including on Medicare premiums).
I'm still trying to figure out the I bonds (the ones with the inflation adjust) and if one has to hold them for decades to get the 3.54% interest rate. I haven't been able to find a clear answer to that at the Treasury site, but doing a Google, it kind of seems my suspicion is right,.
I bonds at a glance: https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/products/prod_ibonds_glance.htm
Series I Savings Bonds Rates & Terms: Calculating Interest Rates: https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/ibonds/res_ibonds_iratesandterms.htm
Edited to add 1:04 PM ET -
This one makes the I-bond look like the real deal.
https://www.depositaccounts.com/blog/inflation-treasury-series-i-savings-bonds/
They:
Can't be redeemed within 12 months of issue date
Lose 3 months interest if redeemed within 5 years
(but no other holding time requirements other than these that result in losing interest)
But: Maximum purchases per year and per social security number is $10,000 in TreasuryDirect and $5,000 in paper bonds purchased with IRS tax refunds (This excludes trust/business purchases)
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I posted before I was finished, please read it again, I made a serious reply.
marble falls
May 2021
#23
It appears you have a misunderstanding of what TIAA does and what an Annuity is.
A HERETIC I AM
May 2021
#37
I put a group named Blooom in control of my 401(k), which is with another company.
NBachers
May 2021
#4
Remember the old days when they'd roll them over if you didn't cash them in?
marble falls
May 2021
#25
Odd the EE savings bonds suck so much (these are the ones without the inflation adjust)
progree
May 2021
#27
Some may compare annuity yields to those of bonds and CD's without understanding the differences
progree
Jun 2021
#40
My annuities will not die with me, if there is still any value left.
PoindexterOglethorpe
Jun 2021
#41
I'm guessing interest rates and annuity yields were considerably higher when you bought
progree
Jun 2021
#42
I haven't seen anything like 4% - 5% anywhere for a long long time, and municipal bonds are not a
progree
May 2021
#28
Can new investors buy these, e.g. the EVM Eaton Vance California Municipal Bond Fund
progree
May 2021
#31