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progree

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Tue Jul 9, 2024, 05:40 PM Jul 2024

Self-described savvy person scammed (and thanks a lot Bank of America) [View all]

Last edited Tue Jul 9, 2024, 07:52 PM - Edit history (1)

I read about tons of scams, as a reader of AARP Bulletin and Consumer Reports, and just in general online, but this somehow struck me as something other than a variation of the same kinds of scams we keep hearing about.
 
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/scammed-nearly-300-000-forced-212158398.html

I was scammed out of nearly $300,000 and was forced to abandon my retirement dreams, Business Insider, 7/9/24

I researched investment options online and eventually reached out to a friend. He connected me to a company he was investing in. I checked the company out online, and everything seemed above board. I spoke with a professional financial planner tied to the company.

Still, I was cautious. I opened an account with just $250. Then, I transferred $10,000. When that investment began to grow, I wanted to go all in. I withdrew $100 from the account to make sure it was legit. After that withdrawal was processed, I transferred all my money: $256,470.

After that, things started to get strange. The so-called investment company asked me to take out a line of credit. They encouraged me to invest in bitcoin and started charging me steep commissions.

... I got my own lawyer, who looked up the company's legal representation. He couldn't find any licensed lawyer with the name I'd been given. ...

... My lawyer realized that I had sent most of my funds to an account at Bank of America. As an immigrant, I trusted Bank of America intrinsically.

.... Even after my lawyer alerted them to what was happening, they cleared a check I'd written to the scammers. They ignored requests from my bank to look at the fraud, and after three requests, my bank gave up.

The thing is, I'm a smart guy. I ran a major business for 30 years. I am good at vetting people—or at least I thought. ((he's 70, not 85 or 95 --p))


Things in double parentheses ending in a -p are mine

Besides hiring the lawyer, he hired a private investigator...

He contacted his local police department but they said they had 600 cases like his and only 3 investigators.

"Older people, like myself, need help to protect themselves"


It's not always a matter of age, but the literature on cognitive decline after say 50 is scary, and I worry a lot about that even though I don't notice anything other than it is a struggle to memorize stuff, which I do as an exercise (a great falling asleep exercise). And maybe it takes longer to find the right word sometimes.

In a statement to Business Insider, Bank of America said: "We don't want any bank's clients to become victims of scams. We try to work with victims and their banks to return the funds when feasible, but unfortunately, this is not always possible. We encourage clients to do thorough due diligence to ensure that they are transferring funds to legitimate businesses."


Two edits made after 17 replies:

I added the full Bank of America statement to Business Insider - see just above

I changed the old title was "Savvy person scammed (and thanks a lot Bank of America)" to "Self-described savvy person (and thanks a lot Bank of America)"

It was question everything who pointed out what is unquestionably dumb -- putting all his eggs in one basket.

From the article:
I transferred all my money: $256,470.
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"eventually reached out to a friend" marybourg Jul 2024 #1
I value highly personal references from people I know well and trust, but it would take more than that progree Jul 2024 #4
I would -- and did -- open an account at an established brokerage or marybourg Jul 2024 #15
I've been screwed by well-known brokerages, AG Edwards at the time progree Jul 2024 #18
It's best if you can rely on your own judgment. marybourg Jul 2024 #20
Well, both of my partnerships were total losses except for some tax savings progree Jul 2024 #21
Sorry. Maybe we're all talking at cross-purposes. marybourg Jul 2024 #25
Vanguard or Fidelity or Schwab Shermann Jul 2024 #2
The article didn't say anything about a quick-rich scheme or one full of big promises or anything like that progree Jul 2024 #7
I'm skeptical of this supposed vetting that was done Shermann Jul 2024 #11
Could be, there are innumerable ways to twist and alter this story to fit ones preconceptions progree Jul 2024 #12
Yes that's it, I've twisted the story to fit my preconceptions Shermann Jul 2024 #13
Exactly. And admitted it too nt progree Jul 2024 #14
Doesn't pass the smell test FBaggins Jul 2024 #3
Maybe if BOA put a stop on the checks after they were asked to, he would have been more understanding progree Jul 2024 #5
The receiving bank doesn't stop checks FBaggins Jul 2024 #6
The writer's point is that they should - after presenting evidence to the BOA as the lawyer did. But oh well. progree Jul 2024 #8
Right... and I'm saying that the guy whose financial savvy... FBaggins Jul 2024 #9
I'm still not getting it either -- why should the BOA keep clearing checks he's written when presented with strong progree Jul 2024 #10
Never heard about all eggs in one basket? question everything Jul 2024 #16
Absolutely. That's the biggest problem I have with the article. progree Jul 2024 #17
OK, I do put all eggs in one basket. All our retirements funds are with Vanguard which now has very unhappy customers question everything Jul 2024 #23
Vanguard holdings progree Jul 2024 #24
Exactly about all one's eggs in one basket. Beakybird Jul 2024 #19
Please see progree Jul 2024 #22
Really, all-in is not a good idea at all, unless you say goodbye to the money in advance. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2024 #26
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