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nmmi

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36. I use TurboTax to do my taxes and file online. Then when I get it right I print my tax return to have a permanent
Sat Nov 30, 2024, 10:31 AM
Nov 30

paper record to easily refer to. And to check to make sure that every input I made is reflected in it correctly, because sometimes I get confused by TurboTax's questions, so I want to make sure it all ended up right.

The main 2 pages is 1040-SR because I had to give it my birthdate so TurboTax knows I'm a senior (that's the "SR" in 1040-SR).

The only reason I brought up a specific line on 1040-SR is to make clear what total taxes paid in 2023 is and where to find that amount when looking at one's tax return. So as not to be confused by some who confuse it with a refund amount or additional tax due or amount withheld and paid in during the year or something else, as many do. It's a critical number for Safe Harbor purposes.

I would NEVER attempt to do my taxes with paper forms and paper and pen (pencil for a working draft) and do all the arithmetic involved in my complicated tax situation. WAYY to much math and way too many ways to screw up, and a nightmare to have to correct or change some number that affects several forms.

I'm glad to hear you use tax software too.

Edited to add - Even with tax software, it's not easy to figure out what one's estimated tax payments should be. If I'm OK with using the first safe harbor amount -- 100% of last year's actual taxes -- then it is easy. But some years I have a big taxes year and I want to use the 2nd safe harbor rule (greater than or equal to 90% of this year's tax amount) if I expect this year's taxes to be substantially less than last year's, so as to avoid paying in a lot more than I need to, thus giving the IRS a big interest free loan. In which case coming up with an estimate is difficult, even with tax software, i.e. making projections of what some input numbers will come out to be.

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"The question is not whether that makes financial sense." mahatmakanejeeves Nov 29 #1
Thanks. Susan Calvin Nov 29 #2
Capital gains is a non-issue with IRAs. One is taxed on the value of the IRA at the time of withdrawal or conversion nmmi Nov 29 #15
Thank you. Susan Calvin Nov 29 #16
You're welcome. And I am so relieved you are considering doing small conversion amounts at a time nmmi Nov 29 #18
You are so nice to be relieved on my account. Thank you. Susan Calvin Nov 29 #19
I do a small rollover like this every year Shermann Nov 29 #3
Thanks. Susan Calvin Nov 29 #4
Form 1040-ES Estimated Tax for Individuals mahatmakanejeeves Nov 29 #5
Oh thank you! Susan Calvin Nov 29 #6
You should get your November monthly statement from whoever runs your IRA in a few days. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 29 #7
Oh great, one more thing to deal with. Susan Calvin Nov 29 #8
She will have no capital gains to separate out kansasobama Nov 29 #28
You don't have to wait to Jan 15. We pay the last estimated around the middle of December question everything Nov 29 #14
I think yours is the best advice I have received, Susan Calvin Nov 29 #12
I don't know your age. But I converted part of my IRA to a Roth at 64 one year before doc03 Nov 29 #9
I hadn't thought about that. Susan Calvin Nov 29 #10
Oh ouch. Susan Calvin Nov 29 #11
Are both the traditional and Roth with the same custodian? No forms are needed question everything Nov 29 #13
They are. It was only the estimated taxes I was concerned about. Susan Calvin Nov 29 #17
Also, depending on the amount you may be subjected to Alternative Minimum tax. question everything Nov 29 #20
Oh it's nowhere near enough for that. Susan Calvin Nov 29 #21
You might consider NOT doing any Roth conversions -- nmmi Nov 29 #22
Thank you for all the detailed advice. Susan Calvin Nov 29 #23
Interesting - 20 years is my base case default assumption on longevity in my spreadsheet nmmi Nov 29 #24
Oh I'm sure it's not too intuitive. Susan Calvin Nov 29 #25
If you can, spread it out until 2032 kansasobama Nov 29 #26
I'm not worried. I don't think I ever said or implied that I was. Susan Calvin Nov 29 #31
Penalty is minimal even if you do not pay estimated taxes on time kansasobama Nov 30 #37
Another sugestion when you convert from a IRA to the Roth if you have enough doc03 Nov 29 #27
Good advice although kansasobama Nov 29 #29
Absolutely. One advice that I keep reading consistently, is to never pay taxes from an IRA account, always pay the nmmi Nov 29 #30
I'm glad I asked the question, as long as y'all didn't mind replying. Susan Calvin Nov 29 #33
And then there is the NOT-simple matter about how much estimated tax to pay nmmi Nov 30 #34
I don't think that's going to be a problem in my particular case, but Susan Calvin Nov 30 #35
I use TurboTax to do my taxes and file online. Then when I get it right I print my tax return to have a permanent nmmi Nov 30 #36
Yes, that was my plan. Susan Calvin Nov 29 #32
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