Education

mzmolly

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105. You're bashing Obama, and I'm sure Romney/Ryan are pleased.

Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:11 PM

Sep 2012

* I don't support NCLB, or any form of teaching to the test or taking money out of public schools.

* I don't support Romney's lies about Obama closing down a union plant in Wisconsin. Or his lies about Obama being anti-worker.

* I don't support so called "school choice" because it takes money from public education to pay private, religious institutions. If there were "choice" without taking from public schools, I might change my mind.

I do support helping schools where students are failing, by having after school tutoring programs etc. I support teachers who must be overwhelmed with trying to educate children in poverty, often with no help or encouragement from some, perhaps overwhelmed parents.

Romney would abolish the public school system if he had his druthers. He wouldn't add funding via RTTT, he'd cut funding.

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A Teacher at Central Falls HS Will Not Vote for Obama [View all] HiPointDem Sep 2012 OP

I wonder how this teacher ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #1

As things stand, all roads lead to the same destination. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #2

You really think so ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #6

I know that this administration is taking steps that are leading to that end. And I know that this HiPointDem Sep 2012 #7

okay n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #8

It doesn't take *any* courage to pick on the weak Confusious Sep 2012 #28

don't you know about the "powerful teachers' union"? weak? where have you been? teachers & HiPointDem Sep 2012 #29

Divide and conquerer. Confusious Sep 2012 #30

Right, sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #93

Do you even care that the students at this school were in open revolt against the firings-- eridani Sep 2012 #13

I didn't know that. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #18

Please google that. The letter is a real heartbreaker n/t eridani Sep 2012 #22

Also the actress Viola Davis is from Central Falls and spoke out in favor of the teachers proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #34

she's in that? omg. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #64

What was the federal government supposed to do? aquart Sep 2012 #131

Not stick their oar in with a widely broadcast approval of the firings? eridani Sep 2012 #134

Same destination Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #12

I don't respect her decision. madaboutharry Sep 2012 #3

Yeah Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #15

And ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #19

so are the teachers being disproportionately laid off/fired under obama's education policies. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #20

Make this an OP, please? n/t eridani Sep 2012 #61

already did. it's here: HiPointDem Sep 2012 #62

WTF? Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #36

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #51

Express yourself ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #56

all you have is the race card and you're going to mock me for an inability to articulate my thoughts frylock Sep 2012 #70

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #72

i'm so hurt frylock Sep 2012 #90

Well, I would have put that a bit more diplomatically Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #78

it was a rough morning.. frylock Sep 2012 #85

Yeah, I know the feeling Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #91

We were told by The Man himself to hold his feet to the fire, so truedelphi Sep 2012 #42

are you serious? they called 900K signatures one? HiPointDem Sep 2012 #63

Yes, I am very serious. If you Google truedelphi Sep 2012 #83

wow. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #86

Can you share how a President Romney would address your concerns? mzmolly Sep 2012 #50

It took Nixon to go to China. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #96

What legislation do you take issue mzmolly Sep 2012 #97

Are you new to this forum? Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #98

What part of Union busting did Obama mzmolly Sep 2012 #103

Also know as cutting off your nose to spite your face. upaloopa Sep 2012 #4

She's not voting for romney either. They both support education deform. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #5

The bolding is apparently necessary. LWolf Sep 2012 #9

+1 HiPointDem Sep 2012 #10

"who the hell are you going to vote for, rube?!" has become a major party plank frylock Sep 2012 #52

+1. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #66

I wish that those who throw out that mantra LWolf Sep 2012 #68

Ms. Ratvitch supported 'reform' not long ago. mzmolly Sep 2012 #24

i'm fully aware of that. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #25

And she has completely turned around and been a vocal opponent for years now. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #35

Regardless, I find it ironic that anyone who supported mzmolly Sep 2012 #53

What makes you think she lacks tolerance? proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #54

Supporting non-Obama voters, mzmolly Sep 2012 #57

Huh? proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #58

Read the OP mzmolly Sep 2012 #59

I read it more carefully & i still don't understand what you mean. That ravitch was a bush HiPointDem Sep 2012 #67

I am saying she supports not voting for mzmolly Sep 2012 #71

"supports"? HiPointDem Sep 2012 #73

Yes. mzmolly Sep 2012 #74

please copy the passage you read as 'support'. please copy the passage in my posts also that HiPointDem Sep 2012 #75

You read my assumptions as bullying? mzmolly Sep 2012 #76

more of the same. bye. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #87

What about the students? mzmolly Sep 2012 #88

But Romney supports Rahm on the strike. So do Ryan, Rupert Murdoch, & Giuliani. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #89

Got a quote from Romney mzmolly Sep 2012 #106

You don't support Romney. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #99

You're bashing Obama, and I'm sure Romney/Ryan are pleased. mzmolly Sep 2012 #105

"add funding via RTTT" - to get rttt money districts have to sign on to education deform. it's HiPointDem Sep 2012 #107

Explain. mzmolly Sep 2012 #110

To get RTTT money you have to meet certain conditions, such as: HiPointDem Sep 2012 #111

What you pointed me to was a draft of a proposal from one Trish Brennan Gac. mzmolly Sep 2012 #112

what i showed you in fact describes the conditions, as you acknowledge in your post. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #113

That doesn't mean that you have to create mzmolly Sep 2012 #114

no, you're misinformed. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #115

The distinction is in the words "have to create" mzmolly Sep 2012 #116

False positions? HiPointDem Sep 2012 #119

Charters were exempt from NCLB. mzmolly Sep 2012 #120

Charters were mostly non-existent before NCLB. NCLB was designed to CREATE charters. But HiPointDem Sep 2012 #122

Posting a comparison between NCLB and RTTT for the record. mzmolly Sep 2012 #117

proves my point: HiPointDem Sep 2012 #121

Cheers. mzmolly Sep 2012 #123

nope. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #124

I'm sorry. I know it must be shocking mzmolly Sep 2012 #125

we already know the democrats don't need teachers in their party anymore. no need to rub it in HiPointDem Sep 2012 #126

Who is we? mzmolly Sep 2012 #130

I did. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #69

What does not voting accomplish, then? Scootaloo Sep 2012 #31

Don't shoot the messenger. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #32

I'm voting Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #39

She is most certainly voting for Romney... Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #128

Sorry, no... Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #16

Well, perhaps you can find a less "evil" mzmolly Sep 2012 #60

Gosh, I love how inclusive and tolerant you are being Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #77

I am not here to express my tolerance for Romney mzmolly Sep 2012 #92

Are you calling me a Romney supporter? Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #94

Yes. mzmolly Sep 2012 #95

And tama Sep 2012 #102

Oh, is it my job to win hearts and minds? mzmolly Sep 2012 #104

I thought tama Sep 2012 #108

I thought you wanted Romney mzmolly Sep 2012 #109

So, by your logic Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #129

No, that would be you. mzmolly Sep 2012 #132

Does she want Social Security and Medicare destroyed before she retires as well? eridani Sep 2012 #11

she's not voting for romney either. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #14

Obama has signaled his willingness Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #17

An overt attack is still different from a wussy defense n/t eridani Sep 2012 #21

End result is the same Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #37

I strongly suspect that Obama and the Dems can be made to realize eridani Sep 2012 #41

See, here's the problem Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #81

It would be nice to have the optimism you have - truedelphi Sep 2012 #43

Where is the President's so called, televised quote? mzmolly Sep 2012 #23

Right, it was actually his minion, arne duncan, who called superintendent gallo courageous. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #27

An important distinction, mzmolly Sep 2012 #44

I give you the point, but the distinction isn't so important in my eyes. Duncan is Obama's hand- HiPointDem Sep 2012 #46

It's important to me. But what's more important is the mzmolly Sep 2012 #48

i'm sure she cares. but she's not voting for obama -- or romney, who instituted a similar health HiPointDem Sep 2012 #65

No, overturning health care reform mzmolly Sep 2012 #118

I know how she feels. n/t Smarmie Doofus Sep 2012 #26

I'm mad too but I just can't be a one issue voter proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #33

This is not about just "one issue" Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #38

Romney's SCOTUS would be much much worse proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #40

The SCOTUS is currently Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #79

Do you think that Romney is an acceptable mzmolly Sep 2012 #49

I'm not voting for Romeny Kelvin Mace Sep 2012 #80

Exactly. mzmolly Sep 2012 #45

It's Rhode Island gaspee Sep 2012 #47

Highpoint.... AnneD Sep 2012 #55

Applause!!!! proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #82

You know.... AnneD Sep 2012 #84

+100 Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #100

I am a democrat... AnneD Sep 2012 #127

See ya and don't let the door... Cattledog Sep 2012 #101

Cutting off your nose to spite your face Smilo Sep 2012 #133