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In reply to the discussion: A Teacher at Central Falls HS Will Not Vote for Obama [View all]HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)115. no, you're misinformed.
1. That doesn't mean that you have to create charter schools. It means you can't prohibit them.
Who is this "you"? If charters are legal in a state, people/companies can open charter schools, do, & will. I don't understand the distinction you're making.
2. (Charter schools don't have to take state/federal mandated tests).
Wrong. Charter schools have to take the same tests, e.g.:
Do charter schools take the state mandated ABCs tests?
Yes. All charter schools are required to take the state mandated tests. For charter schools test results please visit http://abcs.ncpublicschools.org/abcs.
http://www.dpi.state.nc.us/charterschools/faqs
That's how the feds & states get the nifty statistics that will go into their giant centralized database.
Only private schools are exempt from testing requirements.
3. States no longer are beholden to NCLB criteria and can opt out and create their own set of standards.
No. You're confusing several things.
1. RTTT didn't exempt states from NCLB. And far from allowing them to 'create their own set of standards,' you were, let's say, 'strongly encouraged' to adopt Common Core standards, a creation of the Gates Foundation:
Race to the Top prompted 48 states to adopt common standards for K-12.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_to_the_Top
2) The waivers from NCLB you're hearing about are separate from RTTT, & they're yet another Trojan Horse. Because in order to get the waiver, you have to adopt -- wait for it -- THE SAME LOAD OF EDUCATION DEFORM CRAP AS WITH RTTT. The waivers are designed to rope the last few holdouts into the education deform corral.
The states of Washington and Wisconsin will be allowed to wiggle out of No Child Left Behind's rigorous test requirements, joining two dozen other U.S. states that have already agreed to waivers that require them to adopt the Obama administration's education agenda instead, the U.S. Education Department will announce today.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/06/no-child-left-behind-waivers_n_1652574.html
See how the media phrases it? "Wiggle out," like they were getting away with something.
It's so diabolical, you'd almost think it was planned. NCLB was designed to systematically turn all schools into 'failing schools' (by its formula, which declares a certain percent of schools 'failing' every year, allowing them to be closed, turned into charters, or reorganized -- & UPS THE ANTE EVERY YEAR EVEN FOR THOSE THAT IMPROVE) and destroy them -- so for basic survival states sign onto something that does the same thing, just quicker.
If your feelings about education are as stated, I would encourage you to look a little more deeply into what's actually happening, because you, like most of the public, have been misinformed.
Obama's education policy is very, very bad. Worse than NCLB because it does the same thing, only quicker.
Who is this "you"? If charters are legal in a state, people/companies can open charter schools, do, & will. I don't understand the distinction you're making.
2. (Charter schools don't have to take state/federal mandated tests).
Wrong. Charter schools have to take the same tests, e.g.:
Do charter schools take the state mandated ABCs tests?
Yes. All charter schools are required to take the state mandated tests. For charter schools test results please visit http://abcs.ncpublicschools.org/abcs.
http://www.dpi.state.nc.us/charterschools/faqs
That's how the feds & states get the nifty statistics that will go into their giant centralized database.
Only private schools are exempt from testing requirements.
3. States no longer are beholden to NCLB criteria and can opt out and create their own set of standards.
No. You're confusing several things.
1. RTTT didn't exempt states from NCLB. And far from allowing them to 'create their own set of standards,' you were, let's say, 'strongly encouraged' to adopt Common Core standards, a creation of the Gates Foundation:
Race to the Top prompted 48 states to adopt common standards for K-12.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_to_the_Top
2) The waivers from NCLB you're hearing about are separate from RTTT, & they're yet another Trojan Horse. Because in order to get the waiver, you have to adopt -- wait for it -- THE SAME LOAD OF EDUCATION DEFORM CRAP AS WITH RTTT. The waivers are designed to rope the last few holdouts into the education deform corral.
The states of Washington and Wisconsin will be allowed to wiggle out of No Child Left Behind's rigorous test requirements, joining two dozen other U.S. states that have already agreed to waivers that require them to adopt the Obama administration's education agenda instead, the U.S. Education Department will announce today.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/06/no-child-left-behind-waivers_n_1652574.html
See how the media phrases it? "Wiggle out," like they were getting away with something.
It's so diabolical, you'd almost think it was planned. NCLB was designed to systematically turn all schools into 'failing schools' (by its formula, which declares a certain percent of schools 'failing' every year, allowing them to be closed, turned into charters, or reorganized -- & UPS THE ANTE EVERY YEAR EVEN FOR THOSE THAT IMPROVE) and destroy them -- so for basic survival states sign onto something that does the same thing, just quicker.
If your feelings about education are as stated, I would encourage you to look a little more deeply into what's actually happening, because you, like most of the public, have been misinformed.
Obama's education policy is very, very bad. Worse than NCLB because it does the same thing, only quicker.
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I know that this administration is taking steps that are leading to that end. And I know that this
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#7
don't you know about the "powerful teachers' union"? weak? where have you been? teachers &
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#29
Do you even care that the students at this school were in open revolt against the firings--
eridani
Sep 2012
#13
Also the actress Viola Davis is from Central Falls and spoke out in favor of the teachers
proud2BlibKansan
Sep 2012
#34
so are the teachers being disproportionately laid off/fired under obama's education policies.
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#20
all you have is the race card and you're going to mock me for an inability to articulate my thoughts
frylock
Sep 2012
#70
"who the hell are you going to vote for, rube?!" has become a major party plank
frylock
Sep 2012
#52
And she has completely turned around and been a vocal opponent for years now.
proud2BlibKansan
Sep 2012
#35
I read it more carefully & i still don't understand what you mean. That ravitch was a bush
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#67
please copy the passage you read as 'support'. please copy the passage in my posts also that
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#75
But Romney supports Rahm on the strike. So do Ryan, Rupert Murdoch, & Giuliani.
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#89
"add funding via RTTT" - to get rttt money districts have to sign on to education deform. it's
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#107
what i showed you in fact describes the conditions, as you acknowledge in your post.
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#113
Charters were mostly non-existent before NCLB. NCLB was designed to CREATE charters. But
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#122
we already know the democrats don't need teachers in their party anymore. no need to rub it in
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#126
Does she want Social Security and Medicare destroyed before she retires as well?
eridani
Sep 2012
#11
Right, it was actually his minion, arne duncan, who called superintendent gallo courageous.
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#27
I give you the point, but the distinction isn't so important in my eyes. Duncan is Obama's hand-
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#46
i'm sure she cares. but she's not voting for obama -- or romney, who instituted a similar health
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#65