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Jakes Progress

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43. And your debating style

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:29 PM

Sep 2012

is to claim magical schools and then accuse people who take you at your word of being angry and of attacking.

Give me some examples of debating from teachers that you find discouraging. Show me the debating style that you find better.

Do not simply make up things without verification or citation. That is crappy debating.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] NYC_SKP Sep 2012 OP

No thanks. But you're free to post there whenever you like. MichiganVote Sep 2012 #1

+1 proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #31

A lot of EDU posts wind up in GD. Not sure how many folks realize this group is here. GreenPartyVoter Sep 2012 #2

Something to consider... YvonneCa Sep 2012 #5

I think that's what's happened with DU3. NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #95

No. Still here. Don't like re-runs which Ed Nation... YvonneCa Sep 2012 #3

Not arguing about the staging, just the absence of outrage! NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #4

My outrage burns... YvonneCa Sep 2012 #6

Are you asking why there's not as much conversation as you'd like? LWolf Sep 2012 #7

I mostly stopped posting here noamnety Sep 2012 #8

What % of charter schools are unionized? n/t Smarmie Doofus Sep 2012 #10

According to some here, none. n/t noamnety Sep 2012 #13

How 'bout according to you? Smarmie Doofus Sep 2012 #16

I haven't researched the percentage. noamnety Sep 2012 #18

Check my union, the AFT, part of the AFL-CIO. mbperrin Sep 2012 #20

We ended up going with the AFT. noamnety Sep 2012 #22

yup NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #12

And i get tired of repeating that non-profit management is a farce and documenting the multitude HiPointDem Sep 2012 #14

Thanks. noamnety Sep 2012 #15

i'm not a teacher. don't know why my post would elicit that response from you, as my phrasing HiPointDem Sep 2012 #21

It got that response noamnety Sep 2012 #23

The people you're explaining to already know some charters are non-profit and have never HiPointDem Sep 2012 #26

The one you are replying to has a one-agenda concept. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #24

Your post makes a lot of false assumptions about our student population. (nt) noamnety Sep 2012 #27

Care to elucidate? Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #28

My answers: noamnety Sep 2012 #29

Prize. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #30

Personal attack and demand for personal information noted. (nt) noamnety Sep 2012 #32

You are truly confused. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #35

I have a policy of not giving personal information noamnety Sep 2012 #37

Nice way to duck. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #40

Unfortunately, sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #75

"In the current system, the working poor sometimes don't have legal access to any schools" HiPointDem Sep 2012 #33

Calling bullshit is accurate. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #34

I gave the details. noamnety Sep 2012 #36

"In the current system, the working poor sometimes don't have legal access to any schools" HiPointDem Sep 2012 #38

Perhaps this phrasing is better: noamnety Sep 2012 #39

Perhaps an apology for inaccurate bombast would be better. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #42

Np. I won't apologize. noamnety Sep 2012 #46

Shame. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #51

Hold up there cowboy-public schools take ALL comers. They ARE mandated to provide MichiganVote Sep 2012 #44

No, they don't take all comers. noamnety Sep 2012 #48

Darling you obviously are not interested in learning anything new so have at it-argue your heart out MichiganVote Sep 2012 #50

More crap. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #52

Amen sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #76

I see. You think that you are a special person. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #41

Not quite. There are districts that are 'School of Choice' meaning they will take students MichiganVote Sep 2012 #45

Read the above thread. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #53

Your post is incorrect, Jakes progress. noamnety Sep 2012 #60

I was correct. You were shading your position. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #62

My daughter's 25 now. noamnety Sep 2012 #63

You are craven. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #65

I'm pretty sure you are confused. noamnety Sep 2012 #68

I'm sure your are not ready to find truth. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #70

On the contrary, I've said I'm NOT a special case. noamnety Sep 2012 #47

You do act like you are special. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #54

"You want what you don't pay for. You want it for free." noamnety Sep 2012 #57

Still fuzzy on facts or just avoiding a little self-realization? Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #59

This is the whole concept of public education. noamnety Sep 2012 #61

No matter how you duck it Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #64

You aren't making any sense. noamnety Sep 2012 #66

Twist and Shout Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #69

While you are at it, can you request an audit on your own school? noamnety Sep 2012 #72

A little more info on how charters here work: noamnety Sep 2012 #49

More uninformed bullshit. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #55

Yes, in this state the ratio of for profits is high. noamnety Sep 2012 #56

Let's have the name of your magical school. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #58

as i've repeatedly told you, with documentation, the non-profit designation means diddley in many HiPointDem Sep 2012 #83

No amnety, may I please make a suggestion? The Doctor. Sep 2012 #67

Yeah, I know you are correct. noamnety Sep 2012 #71

Why would anyone pay taxes for a local district to fund students attending school in another HiPointDem Sep 2012 #84

Do you think everyone can afford to move noamnety Sep 2012 #87

What strikes me as out of touch is throwing open the door to local taxes being sucked out of HiPointDem Sep 2012 #89

What if the system was reformed, though noamnety Sep 2012 #93

And your debating style Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #43

Every charter school I work with is a public charter school, with union teachers. NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #100

In general, I could care less about the groups. JDPriestly Sep 2012 #9

I mostly OP to GD. I try to word the header in a way that will engage. Smarmie Doofus Sep 2012 #11

Why not start a thread about it? Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #17

There's no need to kill it - I don't believe it costs a lot to have it. mbperrin Sep 2012 #19

Don't fork it. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #25

Well. Are you *happy* now????? Smarmie Doofus Sep 2012 #73

LOL. Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #74

I am able to discuss sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #77

I'm with you, and I actually work daily in a public school system. NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #78

That's offensive. Many of us greatly value the thoughts of our retirees. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #79

Your response is unwarranted. NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #80

You have no idea how long any of the retired teachers here have been out of the system. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #81

You don't know me. I don't know you. NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #82

How does this comment... Reader Rabbit Sep 2012 #85

you know, old people, they don't know how to work an iphone so they don't know squat about HiPointDem Sep 2012 #90

And I know many who regularly volunteer in public schools... YvonneCa Sep 2012 #92

I agree with others here... YvonneCa Sep 2012 #91

That's unfortunate. NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #94

I do have some training in... YvonneCa Sep 2012 #97

When I made my sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #86

Yes. ^ n/t Smarmie Doofus Sep 2012 #88

I keep checking in on the group but it seems to have far fewer posts than the DU2 board had. NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #96

We could just shut it down and, once again, silence the voices of... YvonneCa Sep 2012 #98

"once again"? NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #99

Not at DU. There is a much larger debate... YvonneCa Sep 2012 #101

Thank you. NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #103

Hey SKP, thought I'd stop by elleng Sep 2012 #102

Hi elleng! NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #104

Locking. NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #105