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HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
20. try reading the article
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:54 PM
Oct 2012
Klein did live in public housing after his family moved to Queens in 1955 when he was nine years old. But he fails to say—perhaps because he truly doesn’t realize—that some public housing in New York in the 1940s and 1950s, including the Woodside Houses project where his family resided, was built for white, middle-class families. The poor and the problems poverty causes were unwelcome. This distinction is critical to understanding Klein’s history and why it undermines his current policy prescriptions.





family moving into woodside houses, may 23, 1949.

Returning World War II veterans like Klein’s father confronted a housing shortage. To address it, New York erected projects like Woodside Houses, an attractive six-story development with trees, grassy areas, and park benches. Residents were not on the dole but paid rent that covered their housing costs; apartments were not subsidized and were not part of the national low-income housing program.

Rather, for prospective tenants in Woodside Houses and its sister projects, the New York City Housing Authority enforced 21 disqualifying factors. Excluded were single-parent families and those with irregular employment history, out-of-wedlock births, criminal records, narcotics addiction, or mental illness—in other words, any family with the qualities we now associate with public housing. Couples had to show marriage licenses to apply. To filter out undesirables, inspectors visited applicants’ previous homes to verify good housekeeping habits, sufficient furniture, and well-behaved children. Neighborhood public schools serving complexes like Woodside Houses thus didn’t have to contend with unruly adolescents; they had already been weeded out by the Housing Authority.

http://prospect.org/article/joel-kleins-misleading-autobiography
Public housing 60 years ago was built for returning war veterans and their family.. no_hypocrisy Oct 2012 #1
E.g.; Swifton Village here in Cincinnati... liam_laddie Oct 2012 #2
Doing hair. Squinch Oct 2012 #3
Superb 12AngryBorneoWildmen Oct 2012 #4
So long as wealthy, sulphurdunn Oct 2012 #5
WOW! Where did THAT come from?? George II Oct 2012 #11
Read the article and sulphurdunn Oct 2012 #12
How far??? VERY far if you ask me..... George II Oct 2012 #13
You are a very rude sulphurdunn Oct 2012 #16
You are a teacher? George II Oct 2012 #17
Even more frightening sulphurdunn Oct 2012 #18
"Public housing projects" were created in 1933 during the Roosevelt Administration.... George II Oct 2012 #6
The point of the post is clearly that not all public housing was "the projects" starroute Oct 2012 #7
Public housing in NYC (I grew up in Brooklyn too - was born only 2 years after he was).... George II Oct 2012 #8
He grew up in Woodside Houses in Astoria, Queens starroute Oct 2012 #9
try reading the article HiPointDem Oct 2012 #20
I have read the article, more than once now......... George II Oct 2012 #33
you didn't read the article. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #35
Whatever.. George II Oct 2012 #38
not only does he lie by implying woodside houses = 'the projects,' he impugns his parents' memory HiPointDem Oct 2012 #41
People don't "lie" by "implying" - it's in the hands and minds of the listener or reader....... George II Oct 2012 #42
of course people lie by implying. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #43
Final word on this since I'm butting up against a brick wall........ George II Oct 2012 #44
oh baloney. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #45
Why? Because what is being said about him in the sweeping proclamations about him is....... George II Oct 2012 #46
weren't you going away? wasn't that your last post? take it up with the writer, who grew up HiPointDem Oct 2012 #47
All you say about those disqualifying factors and and "filters" had been abandoned by 1955...... George II Oct 2012 #48
take it up with the writer. you're the one with no material facts. you've posted nothing but HiPointDem Oct 2012 #49
I read the words the way they were written, not how I want them to be written, as you've done. George II Oct 2012 #50
the fact is that the public housing project klein lived in was neither a low-income 'project' nor HiPointDem Oct 2012 #19
And, as Klein grew up in New York City, elleng Oct 2012 #10
And what is the most important component of those excellent schools? GOOD teachers. George II Oct 2012 #14
Yes AND elleng Oct 2012 #15
impossible to keep politics out of education. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #23
Hence kept my kids out of public schools (in DC.) elleng Oct 2012 #26
impossible to keep politics out of *any* kind of education -- private, public, religious, etc. all HiPointDem Oct 2012 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author HiPointDem Oct 2012 #22
*how* was it different? HiPointDem Oct 2012 #21
Well, as I was a kid at the time, elleng Oct 2012 #24
i'm not clear on what you mean by politics, as in 'how to,' testing, etc. could you give an HiPointDem Oct 2012 #25
Doubt it; used to be up to 'professional' educators, imo. elleng Oct 2012 #27
if you could give me an example of what you mean. there's always been an intersection of HiPointDem Oct 2012 #28
Not my impression, elleng Oct 2012 #30
so your decision to opt out of public schools was actually decades ago, maybe circa 1970s or 80s? HiPointDem Oct 2012 #31
'Opted out' in 1988, when daughter old enough for pre-k. elleng Oct 2012 #32
just unclear on what you mean by politics. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #36
Parochial schools? George II Oct 2012 #34
Holy Trinity school in DC, elleng Oct 2012 #37
Interesting. I won't dispute it but... George II Oct 2012 #39
Those were part of deciding whether or not to opt out of sex-ed. elleng Oct 2012 #40
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