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tinrobot

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39. I responded to the post immediately above me.

Reply to PortTack (Reply #29)

Sun Sep 15, 2024, 03:37 PM

Sep 15

Specifically:

EVs continue to be very problematic with many owners replacing theirs with hybrids or straight up gas powered.

Simply not true. Studies show that, once people drive electric, the vast majority don't go back.

And to address your second point - you're pointing out a problem with dirty power sources, not the vehicles. An EV that plugs into coal power today could easily plug into a solar or wind power tomorrow. As the grid gets cleaner, the cars also get cleaner.

Someone driving a hybrid will always burn gas. They never get cleaner.

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A Stock Toyota Prius Just Drove Across America Averaging 93 MPG, Setting A Guinness World Record [View all] Caribbeans Sep 13 OP

I'm looking into buying a Toyota hybrid iemanja Sep 13 #1

Plug-in Hybrids - about 8 to 12 hours for a fully charge using ordinary 120 V circuit progree Sep 14 #11

It seems complicated iemanja Sep 14 #14

I test drove 2 Rav 4 hybrids today and I fell in love. 1WorldHope Sep 13 #2

I've been thinking about the Corolla Cross hybrid because it's smaller iemanja Sep 14 #15

I messed up my front end on my impreza subaru the first day i drove it. 1WorldHope Sep 14 #17

The first day iemanja Sep 14 #18

I was, but I never bothered fixing it because I kept doing it. 1WorldHope Sep 14 #25

Conventional hybrids get ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of their energy from gasoline (or diesel), so anyone progree Sep 13 #3

Those are the facts, yes. But the goal right now is for everyone reduce their carbon foot print. PortTack Sep 14 #5

I switched to EVs over a decade ago. NEVER going back. tinrobot Sep 14 #9

Happy that you like your EV. Here in the MW, cities like Chicago EV charging during cold weather can be an absolute PortTack Sep 14 #13

Ice cold Norway just passed 90% of new car sales as EVs. tinrobot Sep 14 #16

The average Norwegian drives 7600 miles per year NickB79 Sep 14 #20

Not really. 14K miles per year is only about 40 miles per day. tinrobot Sep 14 #27

This OP was about a stock Prius and a guy who got amazing mileage from it....NOT about EVs and your PortTack Sep 15 #29

I responded to the post immediately above me. tinrobot Sep 15 #39

Your chargers are burning natural gas and coal, but of course you didn't respond to that! PortTack Sep 16 #41

Don't forget, your toaster and TV set are also burning gas and coal. tinrobot Sep 16 #42

Are they no better than regular gasoline engines? iemanja Sep 14 #19

After I thought about it, but haven't verified: on Plug-in Hybrids -- progree Sep 14 #21

I'm talking about the difference between a combustible engine and a non-plug in hybrid iemanja Sep 14 #22

Oh, a conventional hybrid is definitely better than an ICE car as far as fuel efficiency and emissions progree Sep 14 #23

Okay, thanks. nt iemanja Sep 14 #24

Your welcome. Thanks for the questions. Good luck with your purchase 😊 /nt progree Sep 14 #26

I found something that's pretty good explanation of a conventional (non-plug-in) hybrid progree Sep 15 #28

What kind of hybrid is this? iemanja Sep 15 #34

I don't know - I'm not having any luck with your link progree Sep 15 #35

Is this better iemanja Sep 15 #36

Definitely a conventional (not plug-in) hybrid progree Sep 15 #37

Right, I knew that iemanja Sep 15 #38

One can pretend that electricity ISN'T generated overwhelmingly by fossil fuels at a huge thermodynamic penalty... NNadir Sep 15 #32

I'm well aware that the U.S. grid, on average, is 60% fossil fuel. What I'm saying is that progree Sep 15 #33

It is technically straight forward, although popularly not recognized or embraced to make ICE's nearly carbon neutral. NNadir Sep 15 #40

God, please don't get me stuck behind a hypermiler. NBachers Sep 14 #4

I've had two Prius...they are really great cars and I definitely have reduced my carbon foot print PortTack Sep 14 #6

I'm on my 2nd Prius chowmama Sep 14 #7

It's great that he did it, but the last part is basically a Toyota ad that slams EVs tinrobot Sep 14 #8

I've got a European spec Yaris Cross hybrid. shotten99 Sep 14 #10

It's not just the mileage that counts. My 12+ y/o Prius has had to have only Wonder Why Sep 14 #12

I'm saving my 12 yr old Prius for my daughter NickB79 Sep 15 #30

Mine goes to grandson in 2 years when he turns 16. Wonder Why Sep 15 #31