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In reply to the discussion: Should the Phoenix Arise; the Bateman Equation and Wind Energy. [View all]NNadir
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I have previously truncated my reproduction the table - to accommodate the limits of my graphics software - to delineate how primary energy is generated on this planet, but did not include the part involved in thermodynamically degraded electricity.
Let me work with the graphics to show the full table, which includes information about energy losses for the big "renewables will save us" efforts to push the destruction of rain forests for palm oil now running here, as well as the soothsaying predicted energy losses to make the fossil fuel generated hydrogen to pretend it's made from so called "renewable energy."
There now, it now includes the part of the table where one can discern that 8EJ + 8EJ (solar + wind) still doesn't equal 30 EJ (nuclear) even after trillions of dollars squandered to trash wilderness for so called "renewable energy."
Let's see, what it says about primary energy sources for producing thermodynamically degraded electricity, using real numbers as opposed to "percent talk."
8+8 still doesn't equal 30, nor does 8+8 equal the 115 EJ of coal energy to generate electricity, nor does 8+8 equal the 57 EJ of natural gas used to generate electricity. 8+8 does, however, slightly exceed the 15 EJ generated by renewable hydroelectricity, but with all the droughts underway because so called "renewable energy" did nothing at all to slow extreme global heating, and because we're fresh out of major rivers to destroy, there seems to be a limit on what hydroelectricity will produce. The 10 EJ of electricity produced by burning biofuels is offset by the 6 EJ of energy losses associated with producing biofuels.
As for IEA soothsaying about "by 2030," I note that I have every fucking volume of the WEO put out in the 21st century. The data is worthy of consideration, soothsaying not so much. I'm an old man. I've lived through "by 1990," "by 2000," "by 2010," and most recently "by 2020" soothsaying about the outbreak of the grand so called "renewable energy" nirvana.
Is it here yet?
Well, that depends entirely on one's sense of reality.
Something called "reality:"
Week beginning on November 03, 2024: 423.28 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago: 419.38 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago: 396.91 ppm
Last updated: November 09, 2024
Weekly average CO2 at Mauna Loa
By the way, my State, New Jersey, is breaking into flames now, along with places all over the world. I'm sure our faith based "renewables will save us" crowd is very, very, very pleased with themselves.
Maybe it's fear of reality that's driving the worldwide outbreak of fascism, since "renewables will save us" fantasies didn't cut it, did they?
Have a nice evening.